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luis c wrote:

Anyone care to comment on the Canadian TRIO

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Solinski wrote:
Yeah, cus a few of those Japanese collegians are doing 13:18 or better these days.

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GL: "I got Prefontaine inspired about running. One summer when I was in college and visiting friends in Reedsport, Ore., about 15 miles up the coast from Coos Bay. There was a regional softball team that met at Coos Bay, and the people I was visiting had a son who had made the team, but Pre had been cut from the team. He was despondent and angry about it, so this kid asked me to go down and see if I could cheer up Pre, because he knew who I was. So I ran down to Coos Bay and knocked on his door. Pre opened the door and said 'I know you, you’re Gerry Lindgren.' Then he came outside and said, 'My God, you’re smaller than I am. I’m bigger than you, you’re just a wimp.' I don’t think I said a single word to Pre. He did all of the talking. He said, 'I’m going to kick your ass. I’m going to beat you. You’re just a wimp.' So I turned around and starting running back up the highway. Pre said later that he went and put on his shoes and chased me up the highway but couldn’t catch me. I don’t know if that’s true or not because I never looked back. I think that was 1966 or 1967 and that’s how Pre started his running career.”

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Fastnbulbous wrote:


Homework assignment for while you all wait for the race. Are there any other collegiate times under 27:50? I looked for a top ten list with no luck. Was Pre's 27:43.6 a collegiate record? It was definitely an American record. What was the record before that?

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Fastnbulbous wrote:

The 2011 IAAF scoring table gives both 13:18.27 and 27:52.43 the same point value of 1144. 27:30.63 and 13:08.81 get 1180, while 12:59.75 and 27:09.78 are 1211. 12:55.40 and 26:59.77 are good for 1227 points which are close to Solinsky's PRs, and 12:50.54 and 26:48.58 1245 points. Last summer Rupp did seem on pace for a 12:54-55 until Merga pushed him off the track.

http://www.iaaf.org/mm/Document/Competitions/TechnicalArea/04/33/41/20110124082825_httppostedfile_IAAF_Scoring_Tables_of_Athletics_2011_23299.pdf

It goes to show what exceptional, and rare, the collegiate performances were by Ritz, Rupp and Chelanga (and of course, Henry Rono, who's collegiate record was also the world record at the time). Basically anything under 27:50 is not to be scoffed at. In fact, there may have only been six official legitimate sub 27:50 performances in the NCAA ever.

Sam Chelanga, 27:08.49 (2010)
Henry Rono, 27:22.47* (1978)
Sam Chelanga, 27:28.48 (2009)
Galen Rupp, 27:33.48 (2007)
Dathan Ritzenhein, 27:38.50 (2004)
Ed Eyestone, 27:41.05 (1985)
Steve Prefontaine, 27:43.6 (1974)

At the time, Rupp and Ritz's times were listed as "American-born" records. Yet wasn't Rono's time not officially counted because it was run in the summer after his collegiate season? When Chelanga ran 27:28.48 in 2009, it was stated he had the collegiate record. Previously, T&FN Records Committee listed Rupp as having the record.

Homework assignment for while you all wait for the race. Are there any other collegiate times under 27:50? I looked for a top ten list with no luck. Was Pre's 27:43.6 a collegiate record? It was definitely an American record. What was the record before that?

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Reality Bath wrote:

Good old Alistair!

-- Alistair Cragg adidas DNF

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