Check out his progression....
He just went 9:35 tonight and is heading to state.
Something special I think...
This is an extraordinarily misleading title...
Lukas Verzbicas ran a 14:18, 8:53, and 4:15 as a Freshman.
Sorry if misleading, but this guys progression is extraordinary.
He just started running in 8th grade and was slow pretty slow...
I am sticking with a claim that this is worthy of best Freshman progression right now
Boys 3200 Meter Run Varsity
1 Yohanness Estifanos 11 Milpitas 9:08.06
2 Michael McCabe 12 Willow Glen 9:10.77
3 Richard Ho 11 Leland 9:13.41
4 Rory Beyer 11 Aragon 9:21.03
5 Miguel Vasquez 11 Andrew Hill 9:29.80
6 Charles DeAnda 11 Bellarmine C 9:31.26
7 Grant Foster 12 Los Gatos 9:34.38
8 Steven Sum 09 Saratoga 9:34.72
|a high school coach|
Good, but not the best.
Top 20 freshman so far in outdoor track (not including those that ran better indoors, in cross country, or in previous years)
1. Elijah Armstrong, Pocatello ID - 9:04.78 3200m (also 4:22.99 1600m)
2. Aaron Roe, Henry Jackson WA - 9:22.55 3200m (also 4:27.52 1600m)
3. Peter Kesting, Olympia WA - 4:23.88 1600m
4. Tanner Anderson, North Central WA - 4:25.80 mile
5. Logan Wetzel, Saline MI - 4:24.6h 1600m
6. Nick Martin, Sammamish WA - 4:25.82 1600m (also 9:30.4h 3200m)
7. Connor Mantz, Sky View UT - 9:29.7h 3200m
8. Luke Hendrix, Marcus TX - 9:30.33 3200m
9. Cooper Kossick, HB Edison CA - 4:26.86 1600m
10. Pedro Nasta, John Cooper TX - 4:27.10 1600m (also 9:31.45 3200m)
11. Michael Wegner, Loyola Blakefield MD - 4:27.12 1600m
12. Nick Diaz, Miami Sunset FL - 4:27.22 1600m
13. Marcus Wheeler, Hamilton AZ - 4:27.31 1600m
14. Graham Brown, Palatine IL - 9:31.9h 3200m
15. Tristan Peloquin, Gig Harbor WA - 9:32.02 3200m
16. Peter Davis, Terre Haute North IN - 4:28.18 1600m
17. Stephen Garrett, Tatnall DE - 9:34.09 3200m
18. Jean Baptiste Tooley, Central Catholic OR - 4:08.80 1500m
19. Steven Sum, Saratoga CA - 9:34.72 3200m
20. Luis Morquecho, Sweetwater CA - 9:35.10 3200m
8 of these guys who have 2 mile times are more or less right where he is.
Elijahs times are amazing. but i dont know his progression.
Ill see what Suhki runs at the state meet and post again.
what are you looking for in terms of progression? from 8th grade to now? from fall to now? the beginning of the season until now? how do you intend on considering willingness to train (a common reason for not seeming as good earlier)?
|heres the deal yo|
my apologies, the kid i know did not run 9:35, he hasnt run the 2 mile in outdoor yet. he has run 2:00 and 4:30 though, and sub 16 at two road races (did not run XC). he has no previous running experience, but i think he did cycling for a couple years. still, its good, but nowhere close to the best.
Kid from my old HS is freshman and ran 4:36 and 9:46 at the same meet as SUM, first in both frosh/soph races. He has run 4:34. Nice double for a freshman.
Ok, if the topic is progression from one season or year to the next, I'd consider turning a sprinter who ran 63-64 for 400m seconds (and never ran 800m+) in middle school into a 2:04 800m/4:38 1600m/16:35 5k XC distance runner just as much (or more) progress. I'm sure there's even more extreme examples out there, but that's just one I know off the top of my head.
If someone drops a lot of time, it is usually because their training has gotten a lot better recently -- either a new coach or a new attitude (both very common for freshman, I'd say). So calling someone's progression better than everyone elses in their class seems like an odd thing to try to compare.