streak
Curtis Beach 46.96 4/24/2012 8:05PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Ran this in the open 400 in the decathlon at ACC's. Pretty unreal if you ask my opinion.
Hshsjzjziz
RE: Curtis Beach 46.96 4/24/2012 8:25PM - in reply to streak Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
His PR is 46.90 from last year. So he's done better. He was off (not far off) in pretty much all his events. I assume that he is not in peak competitive shape right now. 2 months to go...
laffy
RE: Curtis Beach 46.96 4/24/2012 9:54PM - in reply to streak Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

streak wrote:

Ran this in the open 400 in the decathlon at ACC's. Pretty unreal if you ask my opinion.



Actually thats kinda slow for him. He should be in the 45's if he really is working on his sprints properly.

Who's his speed coach again?
I do run run run
RE: Curtis Beach 46.96 4/25/2012 12:12PM - in reply to laffy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
in the 45's?
He has great endurance witnessed by his 1:47 and 3:59 capabilities. But his sprint speed in the shorter distances doesn't show he has much room to improve in the 400.
He is a strong decathlete and am excited to see his unique skill set continue to improve. Even running 46.90 is going to top most decathletes, but to compare someone like Ashton with Beach to show the difference, Ashton just ran 45.68 and runs typical 100 times between 10.3 and 10.5 with a personal best of 10.19wa and 10.30 without. Right now Beach has hit 10.8. If he can get a 100 time down to a 10.5 or faster he could definitely break 46, and if he can do those in a decathlon, he will be keeping company with Trey Hardee, Ashton Eaton, and Bryan Clay.
Spront Expirt
RE: Curtis Beach 46.96 4/25/2012 12:20PM - in reply to I do run run run Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
With 10.8 speed, Beach should be running under 46 with his speed endurance/stamina from 800.

He needs to work on his sprinting and get those times down. He may not be sprint fast, but he can probably get faster in the sprints.


But even with 10.8 speed combined with his strength he should be running 21.5 in the 200, and 45.8 in the 400. There is no reason he shouldn't be.

He'd probably be a pretty darn good 400 hurdles guy too, probably better at 400h than 800 if he had to pick.

A lot of distance based guys are almost afraid to sprint, I don't know why. You have to DO it to be good at it.

But 46.96 for Beach is slow.
for real?
RE: Curtis Beach 46.96 4/26/2012 11:34AM - in reply to Spront Expirt Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He ran 46.9 by himself in the middle of a decathlon. Something tells me that this is not in any way the fastest he could run. He may not be able to run in the 45s right now but fresh in a race he doesn't win by 2 seconds I see no reason he can't run 46.3 or so right now, which is just fine. He also isn't shooting for his best performances for another 2 months.
DecaDood
RE: Curtis Beach 46.96 4/26/2012 12:19PM - in reply to I do run run run Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

I do run run run wrote:

"He is a strong decathlete"

and

"he will be keeping company with Trey Hardee, Ashton Eaton, and Bryan Clay."


These two statements show that you know nothing about the deca.
smitty werbenjagermanjensen
RE: Curtis Beach 46.96 4/26/2012 12:21PM - in reply to streak Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
najee glass is faster
Mr. Moo
RE: Curtis Beach 46.96 4/26/2012 4:53PM - in reply to streak Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
This kid is unreal.

You get the feeling he is capable of breaking the AR in the 800 or 600
Jseven1
RE: Curtis Beach 46.96 4/26/2012 6:15PM - in reply to Mr. Moo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Can Beach grab the last decathlon spot from Clay?
Mr. Obvious
RE: Curtis Beach 46.96 4/26/2012 7:36PM - in reply to Jseven1 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Honestly I don't know if Beach can grab the 3rd spot but I would pick him over Clay (mostly I doubt Clay can get through healthy).
Orenthal James
RE: Curtis Beach 46.96 4/26/2012 9:06PM - in reply to Jseven1 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
No.

Beach needs a 45 in the decathlon to beat Clay and make up for his 110h and 100 against Clays.

Beach needs to make his strong events the 15 and 4 to have a chance on the world scene. That means 3:50 shape and 45 shape which is doable. A few top 800 guys could do that, and some could probably even threaten sub 45 and sub 3:40 in the same day.

But that also means Beach needs to be in 1:44 shape or 48 flat shape for 400 hurdles, which makes him pro in those events.

So what does he do? Could he be a 4 event athlete? 400 hurdles, 4x4, 800, Dec?
Mr. Obvious
RE: Curtis Beach 46.96 4/26/2012 10:05PM - in reply to Orenthal James Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
At this point Clay still doesn't have a qualifying mark. I thought he was going to go for it at Drake Relays but he only competed in 7 events:

100m-10.45, (7 step) LJ-7.13m, SP-15.15m, HJ-1.99.

13.92-110h, DT-50.86m, vault 4.90

No 400m, no Javelin, no 1500.

What events are still out there for him to get his qualifier?
I do run run run
RE: Curtis Beach 46.96 4/26/2012 11:57PM - in reply to DecaDood Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I meant in terms of his speed, not in over all decathlon ability.
He is a solid decathlete, but he cant hurdle, and he cant throw.
But honestly in a matchup vs Eaton here is how it stacks up.
EATON BEACH
100 10.26 10.78
400 45.68 46.90
110H 13.35 14.56
1500 4:18 3:59
PV 16'8 15'9
LJ 26'5 24'3
HJ 6'8 6'8
JAV 187' 156'
SP 48'5 39'7
DT 155' 126'
Mrr82
RE: Curtis Beach 46.96 4/27/2012 12:17AM - in reply to Orenthal James Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Orenthal James wrote:

No.

Beach needs a 45 in the decathlon to beat Clay and make up for his 110h and 100 against Clays.

Beach needs to make his strong events the 15 and 4 to have a chance on the world scene. That means 3:50 shape and 45 shape which is doable. A few top 800 guys could do that, and some could probably even threaten sub 45 and sub 3:40 in the same day.


Maybe you didn't realize, but Clay is 32, Beach is 21. Beach just needs to keep getting better which he is, and Clay will start to fade out eventually. This may be Clay's last olympic hurrah. I wouldn't be surprised if Eaton was olympic champion at this point. Beach should be more worried about Eaton in the near future than Clay, Eaton is only 2.5 years older and he could be chasing him for a long time, if not his entire career if Eaton stays healthy.