It's a matter of slightly over a half second a lap or 3+ seconds per mile off the current world bests. Which will happen first, and how long until each happens?
It's a matter of slightly over a half second a lap or 3+ seconds per mile off the current world bests. Which will happen first, and how long until each happens?
Rudisha, 1.39.98, this year. Or maybe not, but its only a roughl 1% improvement to go sub 1.40 but a about 2.5% to go sub 2, so surely the first is much more likely.
True, but I'd say that there are a ton more variables in a marathon than in an 800. This could leave open the door for greater chunks of time to be dropped in a single performance if all of those items happen to line up.
Rudisha isn't fast enough over 400 to run under 1:40.
I'd say he can do a 1:40.5. Try to imagine someone taking 2 seconds off the 1500m, or half a second off the 400m records. A whole second doesn't seem like a lot, but in 800m its bigger than it looks.
Remember he tied up badly the last 50m in his 1:41.0. 1:40.5 is about the limit of his ability.
Neither will be happening for a very long time, but I see 1:39:xx coming first. The marathon times are steadily going down, but all it takes is one 800m monster to emerge and 1:39:xx suddenly becomes feasible.
Idontevenknow wrote:
Neither will be happening for a very long time, but I see 1:39:xx coming first. The marathon times are steadily going down, but all it takes is one 800m monster to emerge and 1:39:xx suddenly becomes feasible.
Exactly, I know Rudisha isn't going to do it, but it isnt that far fetched for someone to come and take a chunk off. Yes, maybe like 0.5 secs in a 400m it seems like alot, but remember, Bolt came along and took 0.2 seconds off in the 100m, so it int impossible to take that scons off in one jump. No-one is going to jst take 3 minutes off the marathon WR.
Obviously 1:59 happens before 1:39. I doubt anyone will drop 45 minutes of the marathon WR before someone drop 3 minutes off of it.
Don't you people think?
http://cdn2.mixrmedia.com/wp-uploads/ningin/blog/2011/12/taemin-poker-face.gifasdfsdafsd wrote:
Obviously 1:59 happens before 1:39. I doubt anyone will drop 45 minutes of the marathon WR before someone drop 3 minutes off of it.
Don't you people think?
even if he were talking about only marathon times, 1:39 is 25 minutes away from the WR, not 45.
you can't even troll right
It is 3+ seconds/mile, but to be more specific it's a hair under 7"/mile better than the 2:03:02 "World Best."
Bekele 2015.
GARF wrote:
Rudisha isn't fast enough over 400 to run under 1:40.
I'd say he can do a 1:40.5. Try to imagine someone taking 2 seconds off the 1500m, or half a second off the 400m records. A whole second doesn't seem like a lot, but in 800m its bigger than it looks.
Remember he tied up badly the last 50m in his 1:41.0. 1:40.5 is about the limit of his ability.
That's what training is for. A 5:00 mile was once the limit of El G's speed and ability at some point.
800m time will likely happen first. But first we should focus on 1:40.xx and 2:02:xx
I think 139 is probably closer.
sub-1:40 800 with the help of a Chinese designed continually wind-aided track in the next five years. The lack of video evidence will spawn a million conspiracy theories.
I agree with the 1:40.50.
I think it is a combo of speed and strength though and that is why he tied up. If he were stronger he could run close to 1:40 or if he could break 45 in the 400 - then maybe. But, it is difficult for a 45.00 400 runner to average just 11% slower per lap for twice the distance. 49/51 - you need to be able to finish in 25.7 after 1:14.3 @ 600- I think at that point it comes down to more strength. What was his 600 split in his WR anyway?
It will take a special runner to run 1:39.9 I bet they do it with a last 200 no slower than 25.7 though.
It took 13 years to drop .1 second off the 800.
Since we've got 1.02 seconds to go to 1:39 I assume it will take at least 130 years to get there.
1:59 will happen before then... if ever.
Wilson Kipketer dropped .6 off of it though.
and that took 16 years. But let's say Rushida can do the same: in three years we'll be at 1:40.49
MarathonMind wrote:
and that took 16 years. But let's say Rushida can do the same: in three years we'll be at 1:40.49
But it didn't take Kipketer 16 years to do it. How old was he when he made his pro debut? And how old was he when he set the record? That's a little more accurate than 16 years.