decathletes exempted
I'm thinking Lagat could make it in the 800-10000 and maybe steeple. I'll give him 5.
the 15/5/10 triple is pretty easy - but getting the fourth would be a challenge for almost everyone.
decathletes exempted
I'm thinking Lagat could make it in the 800-10000 and maybe steeple. I'll give him 5.
the 15/5/10 triple is pretty easy - but getting the fourth would be a challenge for almost everyone.
every guy who qualifies in the 5k and 10k gets the marathon by default due to the reciprocation standard. So, it actually puts a bunch of distance guys in the mix for qualifying in 4 events
Hall (1500, 5k, 10k, Marathon)
Ritz, 1500, 5k 10k, Marathon
Lagat (800-10k, steeple, maraton) 6 events!
Wariner (100, 200, 400, maybe 800)
Rupp (1500-10k, steeple, marathon)
Solinsky 1500-10k, marathon
Teg 1500-10k, marathon
probably others
Gay 1/2/4/LJ
A and B standards or just A standard?
Leshinda Demus 200, 400, 100HH, 400IH
Christian Taylor 200, 400, LJ, TJ
Tianna Madison - 100, 200, 400, LJ
I bet a few of the long hurdlers could hit the both the high and intermediate hurdles, 200, and 400.
When you say "qualify" do you mean hit the A standard? B standard? Be top 3 at the trials? All of the above?
Assuming you mean top 3 at the trials + A standard, I don't think there's anyone who I would say has a 51% or better chance of being in the top 3 in 4 events and meeting the A standard.
trackhead-2012 wrote:
every guy who qualifies in the 5k and 10k gets the marathon by default due to the reciprocation standard. So, it actually puts a bunch of distance guys in the mix for qualifying in 4 events
Hall (1500, 5k, 10k, Marathon)
Ritz, 1500, 5k 10k, Marathon
Lagat (800-10k, steeple, maraton) 6 events!
Wariner (100, 200, 400, maybe 800)
Rupp (1500-10k, steeple, marathon)
Solinsky 1500-10k, marathon
Teg 1500-10k, marathon
probably others
Definitely do not think Hall or Ritz could qualify in the 1500m. Ritz may be able to make it in the 5,000m but he already showed that he could not make the marathon team.
The only people on the distance side are Rupp & Lagat.
1500, 3k steeple, 5k, 10k for Lagat
3k steeple, 5k, 10k, marathon for Rupp
Lots of distance guys, if healthy & in peak shape have the potential to qualify in two events though.
Solinsky / Tegg in 5k/10k
Lomong / Manzano / Wheating 800/1500
On the men's sprint side, excluding relays, I'd say no one has the potential to make 4 events.
Wariner can only make the 400m.
Merritt the 200m/400m.
Gay the 100m / 200m / 400m
oh scratch that post. I was thinking qualify for the actual Olympic Team...top 3...not just the Trials. With that said..
too many to name.
Would lagat be the only 5 event guy?
I'm saying you have to actually run a 2:19 marathon, not get in from a 10k time.
Strange that we don't have another 1500/5000 meter guy, isn't it?
kertwang wrote:
the 15/5/10 triple is pretty easy - but getting the fourth would be a challenge for almost everyone.
The 15/5/10 is going to be a lot more challenging than you give it credit for if you are talking about an A standard. For most athletes it would take some event specific training to get either 3:39 or 28:15. To do both within the qualifying window...not easy. To get the B, particularly in the 10 (29:00) would be a lot easier but not guarentee you could run that at the trials.
elbow wrote:
Gay 1/2/4/LJ
Things like this only work if you are talking about lifetime bests. I don't see any chance that Gay currently could hit 45.30. Also, I don't think he has any recorded long jumps. Could he off just his speed? Maybe but I think unlikely. Could he if he spent time on technique work--probably but not without sacrificing some of his track training time. Plus with a guy like Gay, the risk of injury is very high if he is trying to train and compete in 4 events.
Same thing w/ J. Wariner. He currently doesn't have the standard for the 400m, best I can tell.
kertwang wrote:
Would lagat be the only 5 event guy?
I'm saying you have to actually run a 2:19 marathon, not get in from a 10k time.
Strange that we don't have another 1500/5000 meter guy, isn't it?
you dont think one of the very best 5000 meter runners in the world, who abdi has run 16 mile runs with and says he (lagat) would make an excellent marathoner couldnt keep up with tiki galena (no offense she ran great and has elevated herself to among the very best women runners) in a marathon?
douglas burke wrote:
you dont think one of the very best 5000 meter runners in the world, who abdi has run 16 mile runs with and says he (lagat) would make an excellent marathoner couldnt keep up with tiki galena (no offense she ran great and has elevated herself to among the very best women runners) in a marathon?
I'm not sure Lagat has it in him to make the 800m time any more. His PB is not all that fast and he has lost a lot of speed on that end. I have no idea what he could run in a steeple. So I, for one, and very doubtful that he could just go out and run qualifiers in 5 events without specific training devoted to 800 speed, marathon endurance, and steeple technique. He would have to make 2 out of the 3. The 15/5/10 I would give to him as a given. To make the others he would have had to take advantage of the longer window in the marathon and 10k and do those early, then move down and work on speed or technique. He would also have to stay healthy through it all.
Solinsky has the standard in the 1500, 5000 and 10,000.
Don't know what would prevent him from hitting the steeple standard.
And at 3:35 in the 1500, he should be able to run 1:47 in the 800.
Webb (in the past) has hit the Olympic standard in the 800, 1500, 5000 and 10,000.
I think Webb is the only current male that has actually hit 4 standards in his life.
Christian Taylor and Tianna Madison in the 400 is nuts. They would probably be beaten by the respective fastest 800m runners if those half milers moved down.
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Solinsky has the standard in the 1500, 5000 and 10,000.
Don't know what would prevent him from hitting the steeple standard.
And at 3:35 in the 1500, he should be able to run 1:47 in the 800.
Webb (in the past) has hit the Olympic standard in the 800, 1500, 5000 and 10,000.
I think Webb is the only current male that has actually hit 4 standards in his life.
Solinsky--technique? Injury?
Webb has hit four standards but not simultaneously. It is much different to be able to run all four within relatively close proximity within the window.
Some differing criteria floating around here...strange how that always happens.
Are we talking qualifying for the Olympic Trials? The final at the Olympic Trials? The Olympics? Having an Olympic A standard? The Trials A standard?
A few guys stand out who in the past few years have had, or been close to having the Olympic A standard in 3 events...it's debatable whether they could had 4...I think it's safe to say that anyone with an Olympic A standard has a shot at making the Olympic team in that event, with the exception of the 400 maybe.
Rupp has it in 5k/10k, could presumably do it in the marathon, and might be able to do it in the 1500.
Solinsky and Teg have had it in 1500/5k/10k and could probably hold on for the marathon A qualifier. Probably. Doubt they'd qualify, though.
Ritz has 5k/10k/marathon, but probably couldn't run an A in the 1500. Not sure, though.
Lagat has it in 1500 and 5k and could almost for sure do 10k. It's likely he could do marathon or 800.
Fam a few years ago had 1500, Steeple, 5k or 10k.
Dan Lincoln many years ago might have been able to do the same.
Max King can do whatever the hell he wants, because he's Max King.
Of course, he couldn't do it now, but the best American answer to this was Alan Webb in '04-'07 form.
He had A qualifiers in the 800, 1500, 5k and 10k. I would think Webb could have run the marathon in '06, but who knows.
For 2007 USATF, Webb had the standard for 10,000, 800 and 1,500 withing the qualifying window as his 10,000m time was from the 2006 season.
Could have easily hit the 5,000 in that window if he lined up.
For 2011 USTAF, Solinsky had 3 standards met within the same window.
Several of the male multi-eventers might make it:
Eaton: long jump, high hurdles, 100m, deca
Hardee: same
Clay: if not injured
Beach: ?
Don't know about the women multi-eventers, but Fountain is a good long jumper and sprint hurdler
Asbel Kiprop could probably make
400, 800, 1500, 5000, 10000, steeple. And maybe even the marathon - he was a world jr xc champ.
^^^^^^^^^^Would not stand a chance against current Kenyan talent in 10K or the marathon.