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speaker of truth
Would Ryan Hall Have Won Boston Today? 4/16/2012 12:09PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Hall is a much better marathoner than Jason Hartmann who was only 2 or so minutes behind the winner. You have to think that Hall would have had a very good chance of winning today had he run it.
AlmostBQ
RE: Would Ryan Hall Have Won Boston Today? 4/16/2012 12:11PM - in reply to speaker of truth Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
No. He would have choked.

Ryan Hall - the modern day Ron Clarke of long distance. Always hyped as the likely winner but falls through in the clutch.
speaker of truth
RE: Would Ryan Hall Have Won Boston Today? 4/16/2012 12:19PM - in reply to AlmostBQ Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

AlmostBQ wrote:

No. He would have choked.

Ryan Hall - the modern day Ron Clarke of long distance. Always hyped as the likely winner but falls through in the clutch.


He actually is incredibly consistent and routinely beats people with faster PRs than him.
Factt
RE: Would Ryan Hall Have Won Boston Today? 4/16/2012 12:31PM - in reply to speaker of truth Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
DNF.. He doesn't like running in the heat.
I <3 Tacos
RE: Would Ryan Hall Have Won Boston Today? 4/16/2012 12:34PM - in reply to speaker of truth Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The problem would be keeping himself to a reasonable pace the first half. Halls best chance at a major was at ny when Meb won. The marathon is a different game now. Barring horrible weather 2:08-2:09 crap now. Crazy.
AlmostBQ
RE: Would Ryan Hall Have Won Boston Today? 4/16/2012 12:39PM - in reply to speaker of truth Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

speaker of truth wrote:

[quote]AlmostBQ wrote:

No. He would have choked.

Ryan Hall - the modern day Ron Clarke of long distance. Always hyped as the likely winner but falls through in the clutch.


He actually is incredibly consistent and routinely beats people with faster PRs than him.[/quote]

What major race has he won?
He always seems to be the perennial runner up?
Dennis Reynolds
RE: Would Ryan Hall Have Won Boston Today? 4/16/2012 12:40PM - in reply to speaker of truth Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
If he ran an effort similar to last year, he would have been up there. Let's not forget though that Korir beat him in Chicago.
theansweris
RE: Would Ryan Hall Have Won Boston Today? 4/16/2012 12:50PM - in reply to Dennis Reynolds Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Like another poster said: "Statistics don't lie."

Yes, he would have won.
bangalangadanga
RE: Would Ryan Hall Have Won Boston Today? 4/16/2012 12:55PM - in reply to theansweris Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
he ran 2:12 in beijing in similar conditions going out slow.

i think it wouldn't have been a bad idea to have raced today and at least practiced winning, i've never really seen hall fade to a 17 minute 5k from 35-40k, so I think he had a good chance to take it today.
joho
RE: Would Ryan Hall Have Won Boston Today? 4/16/2012 12:59PM - in reply to Dennis Reynolds Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Dennis Reynolds wrote:

If he ran an effort similar to last year, he would have been up there. Let's not forget though that Korir beat him in Chicago.



I'm not sure if last year's strategy would have bode so well for him this year. If he would have run like Hartmann he might very well have been able to steal it at the end.

Besides the Olympics, what other hot weather marathons has he run in?
I <3 Tacos
RE: Would Ryan Hall Have Won Boston Today? 4/16/2012 1:00PM - in reply to bangalangadanga Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
We can hope for a brutal heat wave at London I guess. A medal is a medal no matter if its 60 or 95 degrees out.
dean moriarty
RE: Would Ryan Hall Have Won Boston Today? 4/16/2012 1:06PM - in reply to I <3 Tacos Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I think he would have had a good shot at the win, even though Korir has beaten him in the marathon before. But he totally would have chased that clown in the first 5k.
oh please
RE: Would Ryan Hall Have Won Boston Today? 4/16/2012 1:28PM - in reply to dean moriarty Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Fact: Beijing was much closer to Hall's peak performance than now (59:43, 2:06:17).

Since Hall adopted God as his coach, he had the "aided" Boston race, and then has gotten slower from there.
Factt
RE: Would Ryan Hall Have Won Boston Today? 4/16/2012 1:37PM - in reply to bangalangadanga Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

bangalangadanga wrote:

he ran 2:12 in beijing in similar conditions going out slow.

i think it wouldn't have been a bad idea to have raced today and at least practiced winning, i've never really seen hall fade to a 17 minute 5k from 35-40k, so I think he had a good chance to take it today.

Beijing peaked at 74 degrees and was on a relatively fast course.
huwtf
RE: Would Ryan Hall Have Won Boston Today? 4/16/2012 2:06PM - in reply to speaker of truth Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
No. Hall would have been going for the win from the start and would have run with the leaders from the gun and would have bonked, just like all the favorites did today. In fact, anybody who thought they had a chance to win if they ran with the leaders from the start today would not have won.
bangalangadanga
RE: Would Ryan Hall Have Won Boston Today? 4/16/2012 2:27PM - in reply to Factt Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Factt wrote:

[quote]bangalangadanga wrote:

he ran 2:12 in beijing in similar conditions going out slow.

i think it wouldn't have been a bad idea to have raced today and at least practiced winning, i've never really seen hall fade to a 17 minute 5k from 35-40k, so I think he had a good chance to take it today.

Beijing peaked at 74 degrees and was on a relatively fast course.[/quote]

looked like 84 degrees to me. where is the source on that stat?

http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/ZBAA/2008/8/24/DailyHistory.html?req_city=Beijing&req_state=BJ&req_statename=Beijing
lklklooooioooop
RE: Would Ryan Hall Have Won Boston Today? 4/16/2012 3:29PM - in reply to bangalangadanga Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Hes a whimp and was scared to race today. The bi*tch of it is even though i think he pus*ed out he would have won today or came in a very close second.

Heres what happened, after the last attempts at it, talking it up, and saying i will keep racing boston till i win, the 2:03 cracked him last year, and this year he put off boston because he was scared to come in today and get his butt kicked, well the funny thing is if he would have shown up today i really think he had a shot, and the best one he will ever get...
Citizen Runner
RE: Would Ryan Hall Have Won Boston Today? 4/16/2012 4:06PM - in reply to speaker of truth Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I don't think Hall runs well in heat. A better question is what Meb might have done under these conditions.
what if.
RE: Would Ryan Hall Have Won Boston Today? 4/16/2012 4:40PM - in reply to speaker of truth Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Would Wanjiru have won if he was still a live? Would both Mutai's have run better in the heat?
rodsquad
RE: Would Ryan Hall Have Won Boston Today? 4/16/2012 6:32PM - in reply to speaker of truth Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
#1 rule of running/life: You must be present to win.
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