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Lyndon Larouche
<2:00 marathon - what is the longest anybody has run @ that pace? 4/15/2012 9:54AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
2:50/km. Paces for:
25km @ 1:11:05
30km @ 1:25:20
The WRs at these distances are 1:11:50 (road) and 1:26:47 (track)
The last 2.195 km has to be run in 6:14, which is in and of itself unusual even today.

Not going to happen anytime soon.
Skip Bounds
RE: <2:00 marathon - what is the longest anybody has run @ that pace? 4/15/2012 10:01AM - in reply to Lyndon Larouche Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I don't know the answer for certain, but I would guess that a half marathon is the longest this pace has been sustained so far.

In my opinion, we are as close to breaking 2 hours as we were to breaking 4 minutes(mile) when the 800 record was around 1:57.
Left Said Fred
RE: <2:00 marathon - what is the longest anybody has run @ that pace? 4/15/2012 10:04AM - in reply to Lyndon Larouche Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
21,285 meters.
Been there done that
RE: <2:00 marathon - what is the longest anybody has run @ that pace? 4/15/2012 10:06AM - in reply to Lyndon Larouche Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Didn't Gerry Lindgren make it about 25-26 miles then he passed out? Sounds unbelievable at first, but considering how much mileage he did and that fact that he DID pass out... Maybe he did.

I mean, how many of the top marathoners push themselves hard enough to go unconscious and faint? NONE. Passing out is exactly what I would imagine woud happen after pushing yourself that hard. Maybe today's guys aren't pushing hard enough (obviously not or they would pass out).
yagtash
RE: <2:00 marathon - what is the longest anybody has run @ that pace? 4/15/2012 10:10AM - in reply to Skip Bounds Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Skip Bounds wrote:


In my opinion, we are as close to breaking 2 hours as we were to breaking 4 minutes(mile) when the 800 record was around 1:57.


sheeeeeeeet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/800_metres_world_record_progression

tadese has run ~7-8 seconds per mile under 2:00:00 pace for the half, so i bet he could slow it down and stretch it out to almost 30k. mcmillan calc points to around the same

58:23 21.1k --> 1:25:29 30k (2:00:15 pace)
Lyndon Larouche
RE: <2:00 marathon - what is the longest anybody has run @ that pace? 4/15/2012 11:50AM - in reply to Skip Bounds Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Skip Bounds wrote:

In my opinion, we are as close to breaking 2 hours as we were to breaking 4 minutes(mile) when the 800 record was around 1:57.


i.e. 60-70 yrs at least.
ohoh
RE: <2:00 marathon - what is the longest anybody has run @ that pace? 4/18/2012 9:16PM - in reply to Been there done that Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Been there done that wrote:

Didn't Gerry Lindgren make it about 25-26 miles then he passed out? Sounds unbelievable at first, but considering how much mileage he did and that fact that he DID pass out... Maybe he did.

I mean, how many of the top marathoners push themselves hard enough to go unconscious and faint? NONE. Passing out is exactly what I would imagine woud happen after pushing yourself that hard. Maybe today's guys aren't pushing hard enough (obviously not or they would pass out).


Was this something witnessed by other people? Or a Gerry Lindgren story? Man, that guy is so weird. Can't believe anything he says.
g lind ftw
RE: <2:00 marathon - what is the longest anybody has run @ that pace? 4/18/2012 9:23PM - in reply to ohoh Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
26.1 miles by Gerry Lindgren, the man himself.
Much better
RE: <2:00 marathon - what is the longest anybody has run @ that pace? 4/18/2012 9:26PM - in reply to ohoh Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

ohoh wrote:

[quote]Been there done that wrote:

Didn't Gerry Lindgren make it about 25-26 miles then he passed out? Sounds unbelievable at first, but considering how much mileage he did and that fact that he DID pass out... Maybe he did.

I mean, how many of the top marathoners push themselves hard enough to go unconscious and faint? NONE. Passing out is exactly what I would imagine woud happen after pushing yourself that hard. Maybe today's guys aren't pushing hard enough (obviously not or they would pass out).


Was this something witnessed by other people? Or a Gerry Lindgren story? Man, that guy is so weird. Can't believe anything he says.[/quote]

Exactly what is so unbelievable about that? Isn't passing out what you woul expect to happen to someone over exerting themselves?
Factt
RE: <2:00 marathon - what is the longest anybody has run @ that pace? 4/18/2012 9:34PM - in reply to Left Said Fred Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Left Said Fred wrote:

21,285 meters.

Geb's one hour run record, and done on a track no less.
good point
RE: <2:00 marathon - what is the longest anybody has run @ that pace? 4/18/2012 9:53PM - in reply to Lyndon Larouche Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I think one of those 58:xx half marathoners could probably hold the necessary pace for maybe 14 or possibly 15 miles.

But good point. Shows that we're still 11 or 12 miles away from seeing a sub-2 marathon.
Seyta
RE: <2:00 marathon - what is the longest anybody has run @ that pace? 4/18/2012 10:04PM - in reply to Been there done that Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Been there done that wrote:

Didn't Gerry Lindgren make it about 25-26 miles then he passed out? Sounds unbelievable at first, but considering how much mileage he did and that fact that he DID pass out... Maybe he did.

I mean, how many of the top marathoners push themselves hard enough to go unconscious and faint? NONE. Passing out is exactly what I would imagine woud happen after pushing yourself that hard. Maybe today's guys aren't pushing hard enough (obviously not or they would pass out).


No, Gerry Lindgren did not make it 25-26 miles at 2:00 Marathon Pace. He's too slow to manage that.
Azaleas
RE: <2:00 marathon - what is the longest anybody has run @ that pace? 4/18/2012 10:19PM - in reply to Seyta Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Just to put it in perspective: Gerry Lindgren's 10k PR is over 2 hour pace. He did collapse in some marathons, I think, but they definitely weren't at sub-2 pace.
huwtf
RE: <2:00 marathon - what is the longest anybody has run @ that pace? 4/18/2012 10:56PM - in reply to Azaleas Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Azaleas wrote:
...Lindgren's 10k PR is over 2 hour pace...


Gerry Lindgren did not run 26 miles (or whatever he claims) in under 2 hours, but he did run his 6 mile WR in 27:11 (4:32 per mile pace). His 6 mile WR pace would give a 1:58:47 marathon. (Not that this makes it any more likely that he ran 26 miles in under 2 hours.)
speaker of truth
RE: <2:00 marathon - what is the longest anybody has run @ that pace? 4/19/2012 4:24AM - in reply to huwtf Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Gerry ran 16:08 for 4 miles and beat all the 1964 US olympians in that race. That time is on par with a sub 2 hour marathon, look it up on mcmillan calculator
well..
RE: <2:00 marathon - what is the longest anybody has run @ that pace? 4/19/2012 12:28PM - in reply to speaker of truth Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

speaker of truth wrote:

Gerry ran 16:08 for 4 miles and beat all the 1964 US olympians in that race. That time is on par with a sub 2 hour marathon, look it up on mcmillan calculator

No he didnīt. That pace is about as fast as Kenny B:s 5000m WR. Anyone with a 3 digit IQ understands that itīs impossible.
michael crawford
RE: <2:00 marathon - what is the longest anybody has run @ that pace? 4/19/2012 1:42PM - in reply to well.. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
there was nearly one in the film The Games
J.R.
RE: <2:00 marathon - what is the longest anybody has run @ that pace? 4/19/2012 2:40PM - in reply to Lyndon Larouche Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
This will happen when modern training keeps evolving, lead by the new coach Yangseff Pachewko.

Currently he is unknown as a coach, and no one knows where he is.
Pontification
RE: <2:00 marathon - what is the longest anybody has run @ that pace? 4/19/2012 4:31PM - in reply to J.R. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
This thread should be permanently tagged to the first page to diffuse the morons who think we are right around the corner from a sub 2.
superstarletsrunner
RE: <2:00 marathon - what is the longest anybody has run @ that pace? 4/19/2012 6:25PM - in reply to speaker of truth Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

speaker of truth wrote:

Gerry ran 16:08 for 4 miles and beat all the 1964 US olympians in that race. That time is on par with a sub 2 hour marathon, look it up on mcmillan calculator


Oh boy................
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