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RE: Moses Mosop Has No Chance At The WR This Sunday 4/14/2012 8:55PM - in reply to Jurgis Rudkus Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Jurgis Rudkus wrote:

[quote]master of the obvious wrote:

Why is no-one acknowledging that the current high temp for Boston on Monday is 87 degrees? .


Because Mosop isn't running Boston.[/quote]

That was obvious.

Perhaps he is not such a master after all.
MarathonMind
RE: Moses Mosop Has No Chance At The WR This Sunday 4/14/2012 11:20PM - in reply to A little logic Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
A little logic wrote:

14.557k is the magic # wrote:

bangalangadanga wrote:

...the 30k he did at Pre. ... I'd almost have to say running that far on a track results in a slower time than running on the roads.

Side note: I find it fascinating that something magical happens on a track between the 10k & 30k distances. For 10k, the track is much faster than the roads... but for 30k, it somehow becomes slower. So interesting.

Nice note.

I remember having the same discussion with Coach Renato a year ago. Coach insisted that roads designed for auto traffic were faster than tracks designed for runners. It was funny at the time and it is still funny today.

Good to see that there are folks out there who have functioning brains.

The sample of 10,000s is far greater and superior to road 10ks.
And though a smaller sample size, the 30,000 should give a greater advantage due to not having a SCPF to any 30k split from any race, excepting Boston 2011.
Speaking of Boston, it's interesting that it FINALLY took a massively wind aided race to result in any significant advantage from the net elevation drop. Of course as everyone knows, Boston's net drop looks great on paper only. The accompanying uphills make it a distinctly harder course when there is no wind aid.
xmarks
RE: Moses Mosop Has No Chance At The WR This Sunday 4/15/2012 11:59PM - in reply to Cliff Clavin Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Cliff Clavin wrote:

There is no chance for Mosop to set the marathon wr on Sunday. Mosop has been overrated all along. Sure he is very good, but Canova promotes him at times as if he's the Second Coming. Mosop will be fortunate to break the course record of 2:04:27. IF it weren't for that tailwind in Boston, all this talk of Mosop setting world records would be laughed at by more than just the intelligent...




Cliff, even if you are a tad abrasive, spot-on analysis. You pretty much nailed it here.
pr100
RE: Moses Mosop Has No Chance At The WR This Sunday 4/16/2012 2:00AM - in reply to xmarks Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Incidentally - I think that Stanley Biwott's 2:05:11 in Paris on the same day is probably a stronger run than any of those in Rotterdam given that it's a more difficult course.
Cliff Clavin
RE: Moses Mosop Has No Chance At The WR This Sunday 4/16/2012 2:33PM - in reply to xmarks Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
xmarks wrote:

[quote]Cliff Clavin wrote:

There is no chance for Mosop to set the marathon wr on Sunday. Mosop has been overrated all along. Sure he is very good, but Canova promotes him at times as if he's the Second Coming. Mosop will be fortunate to break the course record of 2:04:27. IF it weren't for that tailwind in Boston, all this talk of Mosop setting world records would be laughed at by more than just the intelligent...




Cliff, even if you are a tad abrasive, spot-on analysis. You pretty much nailed it here.[/quote]



Well, for me it is par for the course. I was only pointing out what was obvious to the intelligent. It is important to point out that Mosop did not have a bad race yesterday, although it may not have been his best either. That is the thing about the marathon, when just one thing is not right, it costs many seconds. 2:05 is still an impressive effort, as the marathon, despite hyperbolic talk of sub 2 hours, is still a distance that should be respected.
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