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A couple of things: 1) Michael Johnson is mentally challenged, and although he was an amazing athlete, he should be disregarded as a commentator. 2) Anybody who doesn't think that Bekele could run under 50 for a 400 is an "idiot" and a "moron". Bekele is one of those distance guys with "pop"--not only does he have the speed endurance to run the last 350m well, he also has the jump to get out of the blocks and accelerate to speed well, and he is very compact making starting on the turn easier for him, and he is very accustomed to running turns at that. 3) Ventolin is an "idiot" in so many ways. When it comes to sprinting, especially the 400 which is really a hybrid event that is more of a run than a sprint, his comments should be disregarded. He assumes some sort of consistency among performances, when sprinting is a totally different activity than running, and when the two do not equate in any sort of linear fashion. Bekele is one of those few guys who, IMHO, could come very close to sprinting, as well as run very well. Jeilan is the gold standard for this. Bekele could actually drive the first 25m of the 400m, unlike, say, Rupp. If the 400 was characterized as entirely a running event with the acceleration contribution being negligible, then maybe comparisons to other distances would be appropriate--but it cannot. Acceleration is somewhat important, and I think Bekele has some of it. 4) Sorry, but I just cannot believe that Symmonds could beat Bekele in an 800m race--I don't know exactly why, I just can't. Who would win a 600m race? I have no idea. I think they should do it as a charity event. |
| ventolin^3 |
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moron if he had <50 speed, with his endurance he shoud be running 3'26 why is his best 3'32 & lost 2 out of his 3 elite 1500s ???
moron what is this drivel supposed to mean ? you haven't a clue about the sport calculator predicted wang's 400m ability to 0.1s you woudn't even have a clue who wang is a 400 time is easy to predict if you have a body of work to analyse & input
yes if 12.5s is "sprinting"
idiot rupp's 400 is possibly only 0.5s slower than kennster's it's kennster's massive endurance which beats them & being less fatigued at end of a race when he can bring nearly all his 400 speed to the last lap, whereas others can't
utter nonsense he got crushed by daniel komen in last lap of a 1500 & no one woud call komen a sprinter
utter & complete moron kennster even says in the vid his best 800 is 1'48 how does that beat a 1'43.76 guy ??? |
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I don't know which of these guys would win a 600 but they should certainly go faster than the times suggested. For the last 2 winters I've watched a HS kid Strymar Livingston run 1:18 and better in the 600 and 1:01.4 in the 500. He doesn't run under 48 in the 400 and hasn't broken 1:50 inthe 800. |
| ventolin^3 |
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well 48.00 / 1'50.00 -> 1'02.9 1'18.2 clearly his best racing distance is nearer 400 than 800 & maybe around 500 |
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Ventolin, note that Bekele also said in a interview that his PB in 100m is "eleven seconds". So, if you believed his 1:48 for 800m...why not believe his 11.xx (probably 11mid auto timed) in 100m? |
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Because he only believes things that fit with his idiotic calculator. He believes Bekele's 800m time because it fits with his ramblings but disregards his 400m time as it throws them out of whack. Just because Bekele can run 25 laps in a row at 64 seconds a lap and run one lap in 49 seconds doesn't automatically mean he can run 3:26 for 1500m. Bekele's endurance is better suited for 5+10k, regardless of his speed. Another guy with the same speed might have endurance better suited for shorter efforts such as 1500m. |
| ventolin^3 |
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find it if he said it, either he was smoking crack/downhill track/flying leg/grandma timing it with "mississippis" or likely all of above... |
| ventolin^3 |
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moron what do you offer hicham in '98 ???
idiot hicham is quoted in archives as having "48" speed if kennster had 49 & far better endurance, where was his 3'26/3'25 ???
not in any official race
idiot cram has listed 49pb if kennster has that & infinitely better endurance, he woud make mincemeat of cram's 3'29
idiot he ran 7'30wjr komen was a 5k runner who ran 12'56wjr then went 7'20wr & 3'29/3'46 if you have class endurance, you can run superb shorter distance
drivel "endurance suited for shorter distances" ??? see previous answer |
| ukathleticscoach |
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'1) Michael Johnson is mentally challenged, and although he was an amazing athlete, he should be disregarded as a commentator' He seems intelligent to me and is a great commentator and I was amazed when he answered the question I put up (of course the question made by the original poster). He does not run the distances though and does not realise it would be closer than he thinks. When he says Bolt what he really means is he thinks he could hammer KB over 600m! He would have done better than Bolt right now because he focused on 200/400 against Bolt 100/200 That said the original poster again said the point where there differing talents might converge is 700m from memory he proposed 680m. If this race ever happened it would be the best thing for a long time for distance running which due to tv coverage is ignored compared to sprints. |
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this |