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Surprised
Amazing story about master runner Katy Martin - More impressive than Ed Whitlock 4/1/2012 9:46PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/02/sports/runner-kathy-martin-60-is-speeding-through-records.html?ref=sports


Life can bestow unexpected gifts, and sometime in her late 40s, Martin, a real estate agent living on Long Island, a busy working mother who had never been in a track meet, discovered a glorious secret hidden away in her body. Not only was she a good runner, she was also an outstanding one. In fact, she was one of the most remarkable female distance runners in the world.

This discovery of greatness in her legs came too late for the kind of dreams a younger woman might have: intercollegiate championships, Olympic glory, being the absolute fastest of the fast. As decades pass, maximum heart rate slows, aerobic capacity wanes, muscle mass tends to dwindle.

But Martin has been redefining what is possible for an older body, setting a string of formidable national and world records.

In competitions called masters races, athletes are reborn every five years, reclassified in age brackets like 40 to 44 or 45 to 49, each with its own set of top performances. Martin excels at every distance from 800 meters (about half a mile) to 50 kilometers (about 31 miles). While in her 50s, she broke American records in more than a dozen events.

Last September, Martin turned 60, entering prime time in the 60-to-64 age group, when she will almost certainly be faster than in a year or two or three. Setting records now is like eating a good meal while it is hot.

Since her birthday, Martin has run in 13 highly competitive races, including the Chicago Marathon and a cross-country championship in Seattle. She has set nine American and two world records. Her pending record in the 3,000 meters was set in January at the Armory track in Upper Manhattan; a month later, competing at the same site, she broke the world indoor record in the 1,500 meters with a 5:12.2.

Last month, in a 50-kilometer race at Caumsett State Historic Park on Long Island, Martin not only set a national record, but her timed intervals at 20, 25 and 30 kilometers were records as well. Her 50-kilometer time of 3:58:37 was nearly an hour faster than the listed standard.

Last November, in the Philadelphia half-marathon, she finished in 1:28:28, 44th out of 5,888 women. She easily won the 60-to-64 age bracket; only three of her peers were in the top 2,000. Her time was so fast she would have finished sixth among women 30 to 34. Her age grade was 99.3 percent.
Haji
RE: Amazing story about master runner Katy Martin - More impressive than Ed Whitlock 4/1/2012 10:02PM - in reply to Surprised Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Not more impressive than Ed. Not even close.
Inden.
RE: Amazing story about master runner Katy Martin - More impressive than Ed Whitlock 4/2/2012 8:54AM - in reply to Haji Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
At least equal



Haji wrote:

Not more impressive than Ed. Not even close.
agip
RE: Amazing story about master runner Katy Martin - More impressive than Ed Whitlock 4/2/2012 9:18AM - in reply to Inden. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
IsaacNewton
RE: Amazing story about master runner Katy Martin - More impressive than Ed Whitlock 4/2/2012 9:23AM - in reply to Inden. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Not even remotely close to being equal. Ed's ability and achievements FAR outweigh anything that Katy has done.

I mean it's nice to see that she's found a nice post-menopausal hobby, but seriously Ed is 81 years old and is way faster than Katy right now.
Azaleas
RE: Amazing story about master runner Katy Martin - More impressive than Ed Whitlock 4/2/2012 9:46AM - in reply to IsaacNewton Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Ed is also a man. Not a fair comparison.
Electric Youth
RE: Amazing story about master runner Katy Martin - More impressive than Ed Whitlock 4/2/2012 9:57AM - in reply to Azaleas Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He is also 17 years older, and passed his birth cohorts life expectancy. Ed is way more impressive.
Well....
RE: Amazing story about master runner Katy Martin - More impressive than Ed Whitlock 4/2/2012 10:06AM - in reply to Surprised Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Why did you have to ruin your post by adding the meaningless and debatable term "More impressive than Ed Whitlock"

Ed is awesome. I'm sure Kathy would agree.
Kathy is awesome. I'm sure Ed would agree.
To those who know
RE: Amazing story about master runner Katy Martin - More impressive than Ed Whitlock 4/2/2012 10:19AM - in reply to IsaacNewton Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
1500: Katy - 5:12.20, Ed- 5:20
Half marathon: Katy: 1:28.28, Ed- 1:29:26




IsaacNewton wrote:

I mean it's nice to see that she's found a nice post-menopausal hobby, but seriously Ed is 81 years old and is way faster than Katy right now.
Johnny all stars.
RE: Amazing story about master runner Katy Martin - More impressive than Ed Whitlock 4/2/2012 12:56PM - in reply to Surprised Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
She doesn’t read any running books and lets her husband train her.
That clown entered her in a 50km race - and then surprise, surprise, she got injured.
She’ll soon end up with the bum knees he’s got.
i am impressed...
RE: Amazing story about master runner Katy Martin - More impressive than Ed Whitlock 4/2/2012 1:28PM - in reply to Surprised Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
besides her times, she looks great for her age! wow.
djäveln
RE: Amazing story about master runner Katy Martin - More impressive than Ed Whitlock 4/2/2012 4:37PM - in reply to Surprised Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
According to RW age grading calulator, Whitlock's 3:25 at Rotterdam, age 80, is 97%, 2:08 in prime years.

World class yes, but Martin's age graded race times are even better.
djäveln
RE: Amazing story about master runner Katy Martin - More impressive than Ed Whitlock 4/2/2012 4:59PM - in reply to Surprised Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
she's in Jyväskylä, Finland for WMA indoor WC's

W60 3000m final: 5 April
W60 1500m final: 8 April
if age doesn't matter
RE: Amazing story about master runner Katy Martin - More impressive than Ed Whitlock 4/2/2012 5:08PM - in reply to djäveln Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

djäveln wrote:

According to RW age grading calulator, Whitlock's 3:25 at Rotterdam, age 80, is 97%, 2:08 in prime years.

World class yes, but Martin's age graded race times are even better.


Bekele's race times are better than Martin's.
Wossamotta
RE: Amazing story about master runner Katy Martin - More impressive than Ed Whitlock 4/2/2012 5:52PM - in reply to if age doesn't matter Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
We all love Ed, but Kathy's range of times are more impressive. Let's just accept it.
Reality Bath
RE: Amazing story about master runner Katy Martin - More impressive than Ed Whitlock 4/2/2012 6:32PM - in reply to djäveln Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Women's masters age-grading is a joke within a farce wrapped in comedy. Ed is walking in space while Kathy is orbiting the Earth.

And the OP needs to stop calling her "Katy".



djäveln wrote:

According to RW age grading calulator, Whitlock's 3:25 at Rotterdam, age 80, is 97%, 2:08 in prime years.

World class yes, but Martin's age graded race times are even better.
Azaleas
RE: Amazing story about master runner Katy Martin - More impressive than Ed Whitlock 4/2/2012 7:21PM - in reply to Reality Bath Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Can't they just both be very good? You're trying to compare an 80 year old man to a 60 year old woman and it just doesn't work.

Regardless of how farcical you think masters women are, 1:28 at Philly is incredible for someone her age. How many 60 year old men here can run that fast?
muddy girl
RE: Amazing story about master runner Katy Martin - More impressive than Ed Whitlock 4/2/2012 11:25PM - in reply to djäveln Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
They are both amazing runners.

It is very hard to compare them with the age and gender difference, so I don't see what the point would be.

I do have to agree though that the age-grading for older women isn't really that accurate. They are based on comparable performances to other women in that age-group and there just aren't very many (and as the article points out, these women did not have competitive running opportunities as young women). How many really talented women of that age just never got into running -- a lot!

Every few years, they re-do the age-grading scale. It would be interesting to take Kathy's old times from when she was 40 and 50 and plug them into the newest calculator and see how much lower the percentage would be. It's an interesting tool, but I don't really think it's that accurate. Good for tracking one's own progress perhaps.
djäveln
RE: Amazing story about master runner Katy Martin - More impressive than Ed Whitlock 4/3/2012 6:29AM - in reply to muddy girl Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
she's also on the start lists for 8km xc and 1/2 marathon.
jocky scottie
RE: Amazing story about master runner Katy Martin - More impressive than Ed Whitlock 4/3/2012 7:15AM - in reply to djäveln Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
we have a Scot Fiona Matheson with similarly impressive times. At 50 last year 1:18 half, 16:55 5K, 9:56 3000. There are a lot of excellent masters runners around.

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