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RE: Why doesn't Emily Sisson hold 5K Record? 4/2/2012 10:50AM - in reply to bguyj200012y Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
bguyj, your creepiness has hit a new low.
luv2run
RE: Why doesn't Emily Sisson hold 5K Record? 4/2/2012 11:07AM - in reply to bguyj200012y Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Could it be as simple as T&F is slow in updating the information or awaiting confirmation for it to be "official"?
26mi235
RE: Why doesn't Emily Sisson hold 5K Record? 4/2/2012 11:14AM - in reply to bguyj200012y Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

bguyj200012y wrote:

I am looking at results, Google says she has the 5000 meters record for high school girls of 15:48, but Track and Field News gives it to Caitlin Chock?


For the high school records (i.e., the high school federation) it needs to be high school competition, so that does not pass muster.

For T&FNews, they distinguish between marks made before and after the end of the year, particularly when the athlete finishes school competition. I am not certain what they list, but I doubt that they have Rupp's 5000 mark listed as the high school record, although they will have it as an age-group mark.

Finally, updating the database of records is not exactly an instantaneous process, especially when the marks have some issues, such as being set in mixed-sex competitions. And, since she did not win, some organizations would not recognize a mark as a record if they did not win (for good reason because they relates to lack of precision in the timing of races where first would get three watches by other places only one, so the probability of an error was much higher).
mcgato
RE: Why doesn't Emily Sisson hold 5K Record? 4/2/2012 12:32PM - in reply to 26mi235 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
In the eTrack Newsletter results for the 2010 World Junior champs, they list Sisson as finishing 6th in 15:48.91, which they note is a new HSR. TFN just forgot to update their records page.

To 26mi235: I'm not sure what you are talking about:
--Rupp's record is listed by TFN. Their record page gives the cutoff date for records as August 31 after their graduation.
--The not winning caveat probably disappeared around 1935. Hint: if the time is listed to the thousandths, they probably don't have a bank of old guys frantically clicking stopwatches for the finish time.
26mi235
RE: Why doesn't Emily Sisson hold 5K Record? 4/2/2012 4:15PM - in reply to mcgato Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
[the second-place comment is given for context of a comment on a related thread, but it certainly is many decades more recent than the 1930s, as you should know (and the hundredths are no indication of auto timing, as many stopwatches have them).]

splits from gh via Rich.
courtesy Aaron Rich:

5:19 - 1600m
10:36 - 3200m
16:30 - 5000m
21:10 - 6400m
26:30 - 8000m
33:17 - 10000m

also from gh:

It appears that a 17-year-old HS girl may well have run a 33:17 (track). Make her No. 2 prep ever, No. 6 American Junior.

I know of somebody who is at the moment counting the laps in this video (mixed-sex race, but that doesn't bother T&FN at all).
DocLove
RE: Why doesn't Emily Sisson hold 5K Record? 4/2/2012 4:17PM - in reply to bguyj200012y Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Two heavy
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RE: Why doesn't Emily Sisson hold 5K Record? 4/2/2012 7:56PM - in reply to bguyj200012y Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

bguyj200012y wrote:

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/275175_1380742003_656398464_n.jpg


Thank you! She looks totally different than when running.
J.R.
RE: Why doesn't Emily Sisson hold 5K Record? 4/2/2012 8:09PM - in reply to 26mi235 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Those sound like the splits from the video.

5:19 - 1600m --- 5:19 - 79.8 / 400m
10:36 - 3200m -- 5:17 - 79.3
16:30 - 5000m -- 5:54 - 78.7 / 79.2 1st 5k
21:10 - 6400m -- 5:40 - 80.0
26:30 - 8000m -- 5:20 - 80.0
33:17 - 10000m - 6:47 - 81.4 / 80.6 2nd 5k

Very nice even running. Impressive run.
watchout
RE: Why doesn't Emily Sisson hold 5K Record? 4/2/2012 8:57PM - in reply to J.R. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Interesting that a thread about the 5k HSR and Emily Sisson can focus so much on the recent 10k AT#3 performance ;)
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RE: Why doesn't Emily Sisson hold 5K Record? 4/3/2012 12:17AM - in reply to DocLove Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Right on. She could stand to lose about 15-20 pounds. She'll be fine.
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RE: Why doesn't Emily Sisson hold 5K Record? 4/3/2012 12:57AM - in reply to watchout Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

watchout wrote:

Interesting that a thread about the 5k HSR and Emily Sisson can focus so much on the recent 10k AT#3 performance ;)


Oh I thought the photo was Sisson. No wonder she looks different, it's not her!
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