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What running tips do you follow that require the least time, skill, or effort, which yield the biggest results? Here's mine: 1) add a 2nd dailey run at lunch time, eat at your desk 2) rinse your legs with cold water when showering (speeds recovery like a mini ice bath) 3) drink chocolate milk after running for the protein 4) bee-line the course as much as legally possible during races to avoid overrunning the race distance 5) train on dirt roads (reduces injuries) |
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Dont land on your heels |
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If you are not planning on setting the world on fire...any interval session where you can amass 3 miles at 5K race pace just to stay in shape. 1000's, 800's, 600's, 400's, whatever. Just f-ing do it. |
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it's 'daily'. and a second run at any time of the day will suffice. number is just stupid. no, it doesn't speed recovery. come on! and number 3 is quite retarded as well seeing as how the chocolate part of the milk has absolutely nothing to do with anything. number 4 is blatantly obvious. why would anyone do otherwise? and number 5 is just brazen opinion with nothing to really back it up. |
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1. Thanks for the spell check. Do you have any useful tips to share? 2. I'd like to see your research supporting your conclusion of "come on". Here's the conclusion of J. Science Med Sport 2009 May; 12(3):417-21 on why cold water works: http://denverfitnessjournal.com/archives/recovery-restoration-methods-for-endurance-athletes-part-ii-cold-water-immersion 3. The caffeine in the chocolate helps and gives you the right ratio between protein and carbohydrates: http://www.chocolatemilk.com/recovery-drink/ http://www.chocolatemilk.com/after-workout/ 4. From my personal observations in road races, most people follow the wind of the road and never bother to aim for the inside turns. Also, Ryan Hall ran some good bee-lines at Boston, eventhough the elite pack did not. 5. Dirt provides more cushioning but usually forces you to work harder to run at a specific speed. Trail and dirt road running produce greater leg-muscle power, with less total damage to muscles, tendons, and ligaments, compared with hard-road rambling. Ask a Kenyan. |
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1)Consistent, avoid injuries. You're better off 10% undertrained than injured. Exclude championships and olympics. Sometimes there is a place for risk. 2)Running Economics. I believe Daniels has outlined where you get the most bang for your buck in most systems. Follow that. 3)Don't be afraid to be a pansy in training. Almost every training hero is a race day zero. I should say, a "smart" pansy. If you're following good training, don't get caught up in the guy that passes you on the trail. Stick to the "smart" training you planned months before. |
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Increase run frequency to build durability. |
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Know thyself. Don't try to be someone else. Try to be a faster you. |
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Don't pay for a coach. All of the required training principles for endurance sports are well known and are in the public domain. |
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Need I say more? |
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3. The caffeine in the chocolate helps and gives you the right ratio between protein and carbohydrates haha - letsrun science is great! |
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sleep in run at night you'll have less partying but faster race times. |
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1. Useful tip: if you're going to start a thread about useful tips, either have some of your own or simply ask the question and watch from the sidelines. 2. So you don't understand the word 'immersion' and how it differs significantly from the word 'rinse'? 3. Caffeine gives you the right ratio of carbs to proteins? Are you friggin' serious? Carbs to proteins gives you the right ratio! 4. Then you race with some dumb runners. But hey, you're apparently behind them anyway so maybe it's to your benefit... 5. Dirt doesn't provide "cushioning". Another word you should check out. |
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1. Useful tip: if you're going to start a thread about useful tips, either have some of your own or simply ask the question and watch from the sidelines. 2. So you don't understand the word 'immersion' and how it differs significantly from the word 'rinse'? 3. Caffeine gives you the right ratio of carbs to proteins? Are you friggin' serious? Carbs to proteins gives you the right ratio! 4. Then you race with some dumb runners. But hey, you're apparently behind them anyway so maybe it's to your benefit... 5. Dirt doesn't provide "cushioning". Another word you should check out.[/quote] 1. I listed 5 useful tips in my initial post, and then backed them all up. You have listed zero useful tips. Do you have any tips to share? I didn't think so. 2. That's why I said a rinse is "like" a mini ice bath, and not that a rinse is the same as a bath. This thread is about tips that take little time, skill, or effort. I don't have the time after a lunchtime run to take a bath. 3. Chocolate has caffeine AND carbohydrates to create the right balance with the protein in the milk. Are you backing away from your earlier statement that "..the chocolate part of the milk has absolutely nothing to do with anything."? 4. Watch the lead pack in any marathon. They are constantly making abrupt changes once they figure out which way the course goes. You would know this if you were in the lead pack. 5. Drop a golf ball on ashpalt, and then drop it on a dirt road if you don't believe that a dirt road provides cushioning. Next time do your homework before you respond to one of my posts. |
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You listed five things that are either stupid or completely misrepresented. A rinse is no more like an ice bath then a sprint to the bus stop is like a long run. You're WRONG. NOTHING about getting protein and carbs into your body after a workout has anything to do with chocolate. Regular milk does the EXACT same thing! So your rebuttal to my assertion that people already try to run tangents is "watch people try to adjust their lines to run tangents"? Wow, you're on a roll here. Are you comparing your leg to a golf ball? That's like comparing your rinse to a friggin' ice bath! Man, you're providing me with a lot of entertainment here!! |
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You listed five things that are either stupid or completely misrepresented. A rinse is no more like an ice bath then a sprint to the bus stop is like a long run. You're WRONG. NOTHING about getting protein and carbs into your body after a workout has anything to do with chocolate. Regular milk does the EXACT same thing! So your rebuttal to my assertion that people already try to run tangents is "watch people try to adjust their lines to run tangents"? Wow, you're on a roll here. My 5 tips are all useful. You are afraid to state your tips, because you lack confidence in yourself, so you hide behind a fake login name and try to criticize others. I dare you to post your own tips. Scared, huh? A rinse helps. I tried it. Have you? Or are you just an arm chair detective? No. Regular milk is not the same as chocolate milk. Chocolate milk has more carbohydrates, and creates a better carbohydrate to protein ratio. Here's my source: http://www.livestrong.com/article/547301-regular-milk-or-chocolate-milk-for-post-exercise/ Where's yours? Since you are obviously sitting there with a dictionary, why don't you look up the word "abrupt" and then think about what I meant when I said "making abrupt changes." Doesn't your middle school teach reading comprehension? So, you believe a golf ball bounces the same height when dropped on either asphalt or dirt? It would have to if you want to support your theory that both absorb the same amount of energy. Of course, you'll never try this, because you have no balls. Are you comparing your leg to a golf ball? That's like comparing your rinse to a friggin' ice bath! Man, you're providing me with a lot of entertainment here!![/quote] |
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So you think it helps, so it helps? Yet you try to verify it with a source that has NOTHING to do with your assertion. It's like me saying pressing my thumb into my calf once or twice is useful and I use an ART therapy source as verification. It's a JOKE! So now you've gone from "it has caffeine which gives it the perfect balance" to "it has more carbs than regular milk"? Let's revisit your initial quote:
Hmm, first it's the protein (regular milk has the same protein). Then:
But no, wait, it's the CAFFEINE!?!?? HA! And now it's just the carbs. Because we really look to milk for carbs. Sure. Ah, well, Mr. Wizard. At least you're finally starting to get a handle on what it is you're actually saying. I guess you've learned something today after all. What are you going on about with 'abrupt changes'? What does that have to do with anything? They're seeking out the best line. EXACTLY WHAT I SAID and CONTRARY to what YOU SAID! Would a picture help you figure out why you're being such an ignoramus? Why are you going on about a golf ball? We're talking about LEGS. Don't build up some strawman about golf balls and then make some intellectually dishonest assertion about what I 'believe'. Your initial quote was that everyone should run on dirt because there are less injuries. Well anyone that knows anything about running knows that's bullsh!t. You can get injuries on ANY surface. But no, you said to just "ask a Kenyan". HA! I don't know if you've been to Kenya, but I've spent a good amount of time there and I can tell you that if you think you're less likely to get injured by running on the rutted, rock-strewn uneven dirt roads that you'll find in Kenya versus a maintained asphalt road somewhere else, you're delusional. Like I said, lots of entertainment. |
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Hard. Easy. repeat. |
| xcplayer |
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You're just digging yourself into a hole here. You're wrong; OP is right. Get over it. |