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It's the letsrun way... Anyone that does something other than running is a poser, if you dont run or work out you are a lazy piece of garbage. If you DO run but can't run a sub15 min 5k you're just a sorry fanny pack wearin' hobby jogger. |
| Mr. Obvious |
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They should have Tough Mudder races designed for race walkers. |
| think a little bit |
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How are they more challenging? In running there is ALWAYS a challenge, the clock. If you have run a 18:00 5K then try to run a 17:30. If you have run 15:30 then try to run 15:00. Running does not have to be a 'just finish' event. I can definitely see where the mud events are fun and there is no problem with that. But where is the big challenge in simply completing one of these events? These courses maybe hard for out of shape people but what is the DNF rate? If there is no real challenge how can it be more rewarding? More fun, maybe. More rewarding, I don't see it. I would enjoy doing a mud run but I would much rather set a new PR at most any distance. That is accomplishment. |
| another shoe guy |
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No problem. And I sincerely appreciate it Francis. |
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Tough Mudder claims: "Probably the toughest event on the planet" "Marathon running is boring" "we do not post the finish times" because "it's lame" Screw them. Oh, and it's $40/ticket for SPECTATORS. Screw them. I hate tough mudder more than I hate the Rock-n-Roll marathon series. |
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Not only am I offended by the tough mudder races, but I am also offended by those who are offended by same. Can they not leave being offended to professionals like me who know so much better how properly to be offended? Do they really have to make such a mockery of my occupation? |
| Older than Durt |
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I've seen this play out before. It starts out as a harmless variation on the usual, but eventually they want to be taken seriously as a "real sport". Look at what triathlon has done. Now Crossfit is trying to tell us that they too are a real sport. The thing I missed abou the old days is that you'd show up to a road race and it would actually be a footrace between people - not an obastacle course, multisport, charity fund raiser, etc. No BS, just who run to the finish line the quickest. |
| Xfitguy_the_real_one_1 |
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Wow, what does this have to do with Crossfit? Go on google, do some research on crossfit before and after pictures - you will find incredible transformations. Crossfit is the real deal. The ultimate challenge. And in the Crossfit games, only the toughest succeed. Peace. |
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Your welcome. PS - Please, no newbies. Thanks. |
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Agreed. And I feel the same way about most marathons and certified courses. What happened to footraces? Draw a line and race from this pub to that.... |
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These obstacle races are so fun and it obviously takes a mixture of athleticism and running ability to win one. a few weeks after running 49.4 400m and I'm sure i couldn't crack a 4:45 mile, I beat a friend who had just ran a 4:25 mile the week before. I was just so much better over the obstacles. He and I and the best finishers were all on a team. Our best guy was just a beast runner and is actually competing at D2 Championships in about 20min in the 1500 with a seed time of 3:47high. He's athletic as well but eventually I think if you're fast enough it doesn't matter. |
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I fixed that quote for you to be more agreeable, since nearly all TM particpants walk the race, then yes: I'd say Tough Mudder is tougher than traditional walking. But as a participant in both traditional running races and a recent Tough Mudder, I can assure you the TM lacks in both challenge and reward. I did this thing with three friends, all active people, but not at the pinnacle of fitness by any stretch. We jogged some. We walked most. We finished in the top 5% and qualified for their "world championship." Sure, if you're grappling with some related phobia to things like enclosed spaces, electric shock, fire, being submerged, etc. there's some challenge there to overcome. But for your average runner, there really is no challenge. And that's evident in the demographic if you go to one of these things. Very few slight of build endurance types out there. A ton of beefcake, gym rat/cross-fit types out there. I had a blast doing it, and would highly recommend this if you're looking to do something with a couple friends and don't mind dropping $100+ for the event. |
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His mother was a mudder. |
| Lighten up, lighten up Francis |
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You also sound a little insecure. Do you read these posts so that you can tell yourself you're better than the "insecure d-bags" on letsrun? |
| Chill Bra |
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It's really sad that posts on letsrun pissed you off. Go beat your kids some more. |
| Litenup lightenup litenup Fran |
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You also sound a little insecure. Do you read these posts so that you can tell yourself you're better than the "insecure d-bags" on letsrun?[/quote] And you clearly have been reading these in order to pass tertiary judgement. D-Bag. |
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Hia father was a mudder |
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It doesn't matter what they save of Pure Runners, its a 10 mile obstacle course not a 5k,10k or half marathon. Go run your 5ks in 16:40 and feel fast winning your bush league Turkey Trots and quit whining about something that isn't taking away from any competition in local road races. |
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Agreed. And I feel the same way about most marathons and certified courses. What happened to footraces? Draw a line and race from this pub to that....[/quote] The only real races are when you are chasing something to kill and eat it, or are being chased by something that wants to kill and eat you. All other races are for pussies. There - argument taken to its (illogical) conclusion. |
| merrr |
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Crossfit does get more airtime on ESPN than track.... ESPN is a joke! |