U.S. Stock Market: The Train has Left the Station

Are you sure you are not actually a Train Conductor.

Investment Counselor wrote:

... it's too late at this point if you're not already invested to some degree. ...the next 15 yrs will be a gargantuan opportunity for those with the approprite risk appetite.

Make up your mind.

March 2009 was the time to jump in 100% long. Not sure about now.

Get a clue wrote:

Investment Counselor wrote:

... it's too late at this point if you're not already invested to some degree. ...the next 15 yrs will be a gargantuan opportunity for those with the approprite risk appetite.

Make up your mind.

This ^

it's a gargantuan opportunity to short the dollar

Stocks can't possibly go down. No sirs.

STRADDLING APPLE. 2COX 1WAY.

ilikecheapgas wrote:

it's a gargantuan opportunity to short the dollar

No

It's 2012 and there are 40 some elections going on this year. Politicians are printing money to buy elections, so the markets are feeling good.

I love peeps wrote:

Stocks can't possibly go down. No sirs.

STRADDLING APPLE. 2COX 1WAY.

Peeps - you've been yelling about the crash now for 2+yrs and I've seen nothing, absolutely nothing. You're going to have to come up with some very convincing evidence to prove that a crash is imminent.

Sometime in the non too distant future we are going to circle back to a financial crises and politicians will have to step in and provide some kind of bailout or at least approve massive deficits to spark the economy and prop up the stock market. Its arrogant posts like these that are going to make a lot of Americans pressure representatives to finally not give what Wall Street wants. The Stock market will tank and a lot of Americans will privately celebrate. The stock market increasingly does not reflect any real productivity in the economy. It is increasingly about consumption for consumption sake. Who the hell cares if Apple or Facebook profits plummet and nobody emerges to take their place? Who cares if instead of paying for a family trip to Disney World for a week they stay at home and play baseball at public parks and board games at home. The stock market now mainly just drives up inflation on people.

Investment Counselor wrote:

If you're not already invested in the market, you've missed out on a great opportunity to build wealth. Unfortunately, for most it's too late at this point if you're not already invested to some degree. I believe the next 15 yrs will be a gargantuan opportunity for those with the approprite risk appetite.

I said sell in December yes. But In january I reversed myself and said buy. I still stand by my call to sell in April.

If Wejo would stop erasing every post I make about the market maybe you could get the whole picture of what I say.

I also said stay away from Gold and Silver in the short run.

Not if you're fully invested pal. Stop crying over spilt milk and develop a strategic investment plan that will make you some money over the long-term.

Jr Investor wrote:

Peeps - you've been yelling about the crash now for 2+yrs and I've seen nothing, absolutely nothing. You're going to have to come up with some very convincing evidence to prove that a crash is imminent.

Also why do you give 2 shits about what I say you little turd? And how does one yell with a keyboard? I can throw a keyboard for example but I can't yell with one.

Also August last year was semi nasty and in 2010 we had a flash crash of 1000 pts in 15 minutes.

Also the whole time I've been saying be long term in Gold and Silver, when Gold was 900 and Silver was 15, 2 years ago. Gold is now 1700 after hitting 1900, and Silver is 32 after hitting 48.

Get the record straight with me, or else shut up jr turd.

ilikecheapgas wrote:

It's 2012 and there are 40 some elections going on this year. Politicians are printing money to buy elections, so the markets are feeling good.

No. you are wrong. Everything that happened last year will happen again before the election because of the debt ceiling.

One can not simply print his way into mordor.

Jr Investor wrote:

I love peeps wrote:

Stocks can't possibly go down. No sirs.

STRADDLING APPLE. 2COX 1WAY.

Peeps - you've been yelling about the crash now for 2+yrs and I've seen nothing, absolutely nothing. You're going to have to come up with some very convincing evidence to prove that a crash is imminent.

Global debt is through the roof without anything close to the same increase in GDP. Central bank balance sheets are exploding. Boston Consulting Group estimates the world needs to trim $21 trillin in total debt to get to a sustainable debt to GDP ratio. We're inflating a giant balloon, which is great if it pumps up the economy and it takes off like mad, but if not we're inflating a balloon that's going to pop. I don't see any way around a large sovereign debt deleveraging soon. People keep talking about the strong economic recovery, but where is the significant growth in non-low paying jobs? Where is the significant GDP growth? Where is a solution for entitlement reform? The world has not solved any of its debt structure problems, but we are pretending the issues are solved.

Yes.

I keep explaining the only jobs that have been created are low paying, low margin jobs that require more debt to be taken on by the consumer to continue consuming at current rates. Real wages are plunging, income is flat, cost of living is surging and this is a long term trend that has just started.

For the American economy which relies on consumers consuming, this is a death blow. For Asian economies that build widgets a decline in consumption is a killer, especially if they are forced into lower margin returns to survive which is what is happening.

Its like pushing rope. We talk about this constantly on Zerohedge, I suggest you guys head there where we can have better discussions.

Lol. Why so defensive? Does it bother you that I have a job and will have a job whether the Dow is at 20,000 or 5,000 and that I'm just as well off either way. What if you knew that in fact I am invested long term in the stock market and I still don't care which way the stock market goes. If I lose a bunch of value in my IRA I still live comfortably because I would be earning a paycheck in a deflationary economy. That would be a powerful combination when you really think about it.

The result of more debt to sustain consumption results in a greater creation of money to sustain that debt (much of which won't be paid back). This results in 2 hits of inflation, one now as the product is consumed, and another when the bailout happens to bailout the lender.

This higher inflation results in even lower living standards and lower real wages, resulting in even greater amounts of debt to be taken on to sustain consumption resulting in a runaway effect that gets worse and worse.

Coupled with overpopulation and Peak Oil, the result is alot of money, no oil, no food, no high paying jobs, lot of blame games.

Even worse, you have a population of people that expect something for nothing and expect ever more for everless until the system breaks.

When it breaks it will be epic. I just wonder who will be blamed. Usually TPTB in the past have blamed minorities and immigrants for example. In Nazi Germany they blamed the Jews and put them in concentration camps. Could an American Hitler arise that puts minorities in concentration camps? Stay tuned America to find out in next weeks episode of America's next Anti-Christ.

You seem quite emotionally invested in the notion of "evil" politicians, Wall Street, and consumption and are seemingly trying to put out a logical argument for why it will all come crumbling down when, in reality, it is just a private (now public) wish of yours.