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...your cousin Marvin Berry
RE: College cross country/distance programs on the up 3/20/2012 8:40PM - in reply to TBenson Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
is this really tony benson? same guy who co-wrote Run With The Best with Irv Ray?

As far as up and coming go, I don't see UCR either. Especially after the Big West was embarrassed in the 5k at the 2011 Ben Brown 5k: two high schoolers, and NAIA guy, a JC guy in front of 5 UCR guys (first being Chad Hall). Sorry, I just don't see UCR being that up and coming team.

Up and coming west coast team? It won't happen--the teams at the top are far too consistent and with the pac 10 change to pac 12, the gaps between the top and bottom will only increase. If I had to pick though, I would say that Cal would likely make a strong effort to get back to a top 20 NCAA finish.
themanontherun
RE: College cross country/distance programs on the up 3/20/2012 11:33PM - in reply to jerz Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

jerz wrote:

They seem to be a lot better at cross than track though.


It helps when the regional is on your home course. Good developing team though.


Keeping with the SUNY programs, Binghamton is going to be really good in the upcoming years. A 4:07 freshman miler and an 8:19 3k freshman leading their tremendous class.


And they redshirted a 29:30ish 10k guy in XC, who should have two full years after this outdoor season I believe.

The coach has proven to be able to handle top level talent, bringing Van Ingen along to 3 All-American certificates between indoors and outdoors and one near miss in XC.
standard letsrunnerry
RE: College cross country/distance programs on the up 3/20/2012 11:57PM - in reply to Projections Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Look out for [X]. I went to [X] and/or know a bunch of guys on the team there, and they've been getting a lot better in the last few years. They haven't turned too many heads yet because of injuries and/or bad luck, but they just got a great recruiting class and/or new coach and now the program is really on the rise.

Calling it right now -- [X] as a sleeper team to make nats next fall. And look out for their token stud [y] to make some waves in the 1500 and/or steeple and/or 10k this spring.
runner85
RE: College cross country/distance programs on the up 3/21/2012 1:13AM - in reply to standard letsrunnerry Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Gonzaga.
TigerTail
RE: College cross country/distance programs on the up 3/21/2012 10:40AM - in reply to cheeseburgereddy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Mizzou??? Some D2 schools in Missouri like Central Missouri and Missouri Southern and even D3 Washington University are better than them
yeahyeah
RE: College cross country/distance programs on the up 3/22/2012 3:42PM - in reply to TigerTail Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Mizzou and Alabama both have huge recruiting classes this year. Look for both teams to qualify in the next couple of years.
ayohof
RE: College cross country/distance programs on the up 3/22/2012 5:12PM - in reply to Projections Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Dartmouth Ladies. Watch out for them in XC next year solid recruiting class and with Miss Abby D....
MI Double A Holes
RE: College cross country/distance programs on the up 3/22/2012 7:48PM - in reply to TigerTail Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

TigerTail wrote:

Mizzou??? Some D2 schools in Missouri like Central Missouri and Missouri Southern and even D3 Washington University are better than them


I'm not a Mizzou fan but that is just a ridiculous statement.
The reality is
RE: College cross country/distance programs on the up 3/22/2012 11:06PM - in reply to MI Double A Holes Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Pretty sure that Wash U would've beaten Mizzou in xc easily. Wash U's women were the D3 National Champions and their men were 3rd.

Check your ego at the door.
USA Teams Ahead
RE: College cross country/distance programs on the up 3/23/2012 12:53AM - in reply to The reality is Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Minnesota has to be an up and comer. Coach Plascensia just was named the Team USA Mens and Juniors Cross Country Coach. He loses Mead and Blankenship, but holds a huge talent base in MN to recruit from and has garnered attention from his recent success.
The Zoo
RE: College cross country/distance programs on the up 3/23/2012 1:32AM - in reply to USA Teams Ahead Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Don't know if he'll ever get them back to the glory days of Rono, Kimobwa, Kimeto, et al, but Pete Julian at Washington State is doing a great job, primarily with Washington and Oregon kids...he might be a couple of years away on the women's side, if Metcalf or Tyson slip up.
fat former runner
RE: College cross country/distance programs on the up 7/25/2012 2:51AM - in reply to jerz Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Late to this post, but Binghamton also has Andrew Roache from FM who redshirted last year and Collin Frost, top freshman in conference last year who went 907/415 in HS.
BBN
RE: College cross country/distance programs on the up 7/25/2012 4:00AM - in reply to fat former runner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Wouldn't expect anything immediately, but I think University of Kentucky will only get better in the coming years. The new outdoor facilities are incredible, and they still have a great indoor facility in Nutter. UK athletics has made it clear that they want to be successful across the board, extending contracts of successful coaches (Volleyball, Baseball) while being less hesitant to get rid of those failing to succeed (Mens Soccer) and drastically improving facilities across the board (new soccer turf, plans for new baseball stadium, etc). Now that they finally have a coaching staff that knows what they're doing and isn't stuck in the 1980s Kentucky's program should be decent in a couple years and I wouldn't be surprised to see them as contenders in the SEC in 3-5 years. If only I could say the same about our football program...
Bigglesworth
RE: College cross country/distance programs on the up 7/25/2012 7:49AM - in reply to BBN Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Southern Utah!! Lost Levins but returns a solid, young team... Watch out Mountain Region
Incredible
RE: College cross country/distance programs on the up 7/25/2012 7:55AM - in reply to Projections Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The Top 4 international medals machines of USC, UCLA, Stanford, and Cal will continue to dominate the Olympics and IAAF Outdoor WC competitions.
Waka dog on a leash.
RE: College cross country/distance programs on the up 7/25/2012 10:04AM - in reply to Incredible Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You know I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Texas A&M. top 20 at nationals this year and scored points in the DMR at indoor nats. For a program that is very sprint heavy they are starting to be an all around balance program. Not to mention their coach has to have big things planned. Getting a girl to runner-up at the olympic trials is no joke. I used to run cross country at Oklahoma State and I saw Texas A&M suffer for the 5 years I was competing in the Big 12. Now it seems like their new coach is doing something right!
Adam Smith
RE: College cross country/distance programs on the up 7/25/2012 10:27AM - in reply to runn Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

runn wrote:
I wanted to donate but they said I couldn't specify where the money would go. I didn't want the 2 and infinity basketball team to get it.


Unless your donation is larger than the annual budget, you don't help any by holding back because you want to specify where it goes. If your donation is $XX and their budget is $YYYYY, then after your "specific" donation, their new budget is $YYYYY - $XX. So any donation effectively goes to the same place; making a donation with a specific dedication is either useless (because it doesn't matter) or so obscure (and not within the normal budget) so that the donation itself is useless.
a d3 guy
RE: College cross country/distance programs on the up 7/25/2012 11:10AM - in reply to FL Runner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

FL Runner wrote:

Kinda feel that Stony Brook has risen pretty strongly over the last 5-7 years...granted they are doing it with New Zealand girls/guys (and some Irish thrown in for good measure), but it has a pretty strong academic reputation internationally...becomes a very easy sell...the Van Dalen twins (what's Holly doing lately??), Eric Speakman, Leonara Joy, Patricia Barry, Oilvia ???

New $3 million dollar track facilty


One of my NZ friends ran at Stony Brook and graduated two years ago or so. Heard from his brother that Holly Van Dalen is injured at the moment.
mrbiits
RE: College cross country/distance programs on the up 7/26/2012 8:03AM - in reply to a d3 guy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Lol, Gavin Kennedy doing something: He would have to be in the same place for more than a year for us to know if he can coach.
jhgvj
RE: College cross country/distance programs on the up 7/26/2012 8:16AM - in reply to Bigglesworth Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Bigglesworth wrote:

Southern Utah!! Lost Levins but returns a solid, young team... Watch out Mountain Region


If Levins stays then I could see that being a recruiting draw for them.
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