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Oh, and one more thing...
Eight Japanese under 2:10:07 at Lake Biwa 3/4/2012 8:51AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
leon
RE: Eight Japanese under 2:10:07 at Lake Biwa 3/4/2012 9:27AM - in reply to Oh, and one more thing... Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
where are the times back to 2:20. Its also impressive that the winning Kenyan was making his debut and 2nd broke the Polish national record. America's days as the 3rd best distance nation are numbered.
troof be told
RE: Eight Japanese under 2:10:07 at Lake Biwa 3/4/2012 10:07AM - in reply to leon Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
How about the college junior who didn't do any training runs over 30k, was on 2:06 pace at 30k, and finished 9th in 2:10:02?

America is at best the 5th-best distance nation, by the way. It has been decades since it has been otherwise.
troof be told
RE: Eight Japanese under 2:10:07 at Lake Biwa 3/4/2012 10:13AM - in reply to troof be told Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I just looked it up. Going by average of the ten fastest marathons per year by country, the last time the U.S.A. placed in the top 3 in the world was 1991.
J.R.
RE: Eight Japanese under 2:10:07 at Lake Biwa 3/4/2012 11:19AM - in reply to troof be told Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
troof be told wrote:

I just looked it up. Going by average of the ten fastest marathons per year by country, the last time the U.S.A. placed in the top 3 in the world was 1991.


Link please?

It's going to get more interesting when the Japanese change their training to run faster, as the Kenyans have done.
The MonBRO Doctrine
RE: Eight Japanese under 2:10:07 at Lake Biwa 3/4/2012 11:53AM - in reply to J.R. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You people realize that there are distance races besides the marathon, right?
TrackCoach
RE: Eight Japanese under 2:10:07 at Lake Biwa 3/4/2012 12:30PM - in reply to The MonBRO Doctrine Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
America is clearly 3rd best overall in distance running. Albiet there is a large gap between 1st and 2nd to 3rd, but there is a large gap from 3rd to 4th as well. Statistically, the Japanese are 3rd in the marathon, but with out a doubt, America would have a lot more 2:10 marathoners if more of our top track guys focuses on it. I am pretty sure Rupp, Solinski and few others could run a 2:10 marathon on a fast course if trained for it.

Also, only a few Americans run London, Berlin, Rotterdam, Tokayo and lake Lake Biwa, etc., were you run fast times. Off the top of my head, no Japanese male made the WC finals in any track or even a field event...not good by any standard.
tgfg
RE: Eight Japanese under 2:10:07 at Lake Biwa 3/4/2012 1:05PM - in reply to TrackCoach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
TrackCoach wrote:
Off the top of my head, no Japanese male made the WC finals in any track or even a field event


Kōji Murofushi?
J.R.
RE: Eight Japanese under 2:10:07 at Lake Biwa 3/4/2012 2:17PM - in reply to TrackCoach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
TrackCoach wrote:

I am pretty sure Rupp, Solinski and few others could run a 2:10 marathon


Rupp, maybe with time. He's definitely not prepared at this point, and dropped out of the marathon trials.

Solinski never. He might break 2:20 but that's it.
deuch
RE: Eight Japanese under 2:10:07 at Lake Biwa 3/4/2012 2:26PM - in reply to tgfg Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Statto
RE: Eight Japanese under 2:10:07 at Lake Biwa 3/4/2012 3:29PM - in reply to deuch Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Off topic a bit but does anyone know where I can find the NRs for Japan & China for mid & long distance?
ghost
RE: Eight Japanese under 2:10:07 at Lake Biwa 3/4/2012 3:33PM - in reply to deuch Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He was also the tallest Japanese elite, listed at 1.86/64kg (6.2/141). Impressive times and range, from 7.41 to 2.06 marathon.

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douglas burke
RE: Eight Japanese under 2:10:07 at Lake Biwa 3/4/2012 5:55PM - in reply to Statto Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
for japan- brett larners site understatistics.

china-tilastopaja deep lists which is a subscription site.
Juicy
RE: Eight Japanese under 2:10:07 at Lake Biwa 3/5/2012 5:19AM - in reply to douglas burke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yeah, drugs work at any distance in any country.
@Tackcoach
RE: Eight Japanese under 2:10:07 at Lake Biwa 3/5/2012 9:06AM - in reply to TrackCoach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Hey track coach! Americans do run some of these races and lets be honest here! TONS of Americans run at places like Boston or CAlifornia International, which are arguably faster than any of the courses you just mentioned! Americans just aren't as tuff as Japanese! Yes they are better on the track, but just have no are so soft from being pampered their entire lives!
runn
RE: Eight Japanese under 2:10:07 at Lake Biwa 3/5/2012 9:11AM - in reply to @Tackcoach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
@Tackcoach wrote:

Hey track coach! Americans do run some of these races and lets be honest here! TONS of Americans run at places like Boston or CAlifornia International, which are arguably faster than any of the courses you just mentioned! Americans just aren't as tuff as Japanese! Yes they are better on the track, but just have no are so soft from being pampered their entire lives!


Until just recently Boston was not considered a fast course. Most people saw the uphills as tough and the downhills as quad killers because of where they are on the course.
I would like to see more Americans at the fast courses with faster runners.
noce
RE: Eight Japanese under 2:10:07 at Lake Biwa 3/5/2012 12:06PM - in reply to TrackCoach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
TrackCoach wrote:

America is clearly 3rd best overall in distance running. Albiet there is a large gap between 1st and 2nd to 3rd, but there is a large gap from 3rd to 4th as well. Statistically, the Japanese are 3rd in the marathon, but with out a doubt, America would have a lot more 2:10 marathoners if more of our top track guys focuses on it. I am pretty sure Rupp, Solinski and few others could run a 2:10 marathon on a fast course if trained for it.

Also, only a few Americans run London, Berlin, Rotterdam, Tokayo and lake Lake Biwa, etc., were you run fast times. Off the top of my head, no Japanese male made the WC finals in any track or even a field event...not good by any standard.


Does Morocco not count in your evaluation?
TrackCoach
RE: Eight Japanese under 2:10:07 at Lake Biwa 3/5/2012 2:26PM - in reply to noce Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
noce wrote:

[quote]TrackCoach wrote:

America is clearly 3rd best overall in distance running. Albiet there is a large gap between 1st and 2nd to 3rd, but there is a large gap from 3rd to 4th as well. Statistically, the Japanese are 3rd in the marathon, but with out a doubt, America would have a lot more 2:10 marathoners if more of our top track guys focuses on it. I am pretty sure Rupp, Solinski and few others could run a 2:10 marathon on a fast course if trained for it.

Also, only a few Americans run London, Berlin, Rotterdam, Tokayo and lake Lake Biwa, etc., were you run fast times. Off the top of my head, no Japanese male made the WC finals in any track or even a field event...not good by any standard.


Does Morocco not count in your evaluation?[/quote]

Yes!

I am talking about the mile to the marathon, male and female.
the mile is a sprint
RE: Eight Japanese under 2:10:07 at Lake Biwa 3/5/2012 3:48PM - in reply to TrackCoach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
TrackCoach wrote:

America is clearly 3rd best overall in distance running.


Distance running is 10k, halfmarathon, marathon, ultras.
and bingo was his name OH!!!!!
RE: Eight Japanese under 2:10:07 at Lake Biwa 3/5/2012 7:18PM - in reply to leon Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Seriously? You're basing our distance "ranking" on the marathon? I don't see any Japanese runners running under 4 in the mile, under 13:00 in the 5k, or under 27:00 in the 10k. Get real.
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