If you want a full ride you better....

A Full Ride at a competitive (Top 20 XC) school?

I'd say

1600- 404

3200- 852

Not sure about the 5k. Not enough HS kids run it on the track. In XC, maybe 14:20, but that is just a guess.

Future D1 runner wrote:

Times to run as a boy high school junior in 5k, 3200, 1600 to get a full ride at a competitive D1 school ( bare minimum times, I realize running national records will get a full ride)

As a Junior you'd probably need to run near the following times to get a full ride in a competitive school. Key word is competitive. I've seen 16:00 flat gets get full rides to D1 schools.

5k: around 15:30

3200: around 9:30

1600: around 4:20

That would get you on the radar for most good schools but want guarantee you anything.

everything is relative though. I sent a kid to Colorado with only a 9:20 3200 who got a full ride so it depends on a lot of different things.

Yea I was talking about teams that qualify for nationals consistently... Do you realize less than 5 SENIORS a year run the times you listed let alone juniors

Here is a guess. I doubt you could get a full scholarship running much slower than these times

1600: < 4:15

3200: < 9:15

5000: < 14:55

Remember you said competitive D1 school. I take this to mean a top 50 team or so.

hmmmmmmmmm wrote:

As a Junior you'd probably need to run near the following times to get a full ride in a competitive school. Key word is competitive. I've seen 16:00 flat gets get full rides to D1 schools.

5k: around 15:30

3200: around 9:30

1600: around 4:20

That would get you on the radar for most good schools but want guarantee you anything.

everything is relative though. I sent a kid to Colorado with only a 9:20 3200 who got a full ride so it depends on a lot of different things.

Do you realize how rare full rides are in track? A 920 guy getting a full ride at CU must have had other circumstances (Great grades/SATs that got him an academic scholarship, a terrific financial aid package, school uses all 12.6 scholarships on distance runners, etc)

For junior times I would say

3200 around 9:15

1600 around 4:18

UC Davis, not a competitive school by any means requires the following marks for you to be able to try out as a walk on

1600: 4:25

3200: 9:35

remember this is the standard for allowing you to try out, not actually make the team and especially not for scholarships (and that's UC Davis a team that never goes to nationals for XC).

It is for JUNIORS in high school not seniors

9:05-9:15 for a junior would get a full ride depending on what state

Do not worry about getting a full ride to a top tier running school. The only way to do that is to be a German Fernandez type. Most top running schools will still only have no more than 4 scholarships for distance runners, and the only way you're going to get a full 1 of those is if you're immediately the top runner for the team. So you have some options, primarily two. A) run for a second tier school (probably better anyway), or B) run for a top tier school and accept that you will probably be on 25-80% scholarship your entire collegiate career. Or you could just be smart so 1/3 or more of your schooling is paid for through academic scholarships.

I agreed with that, note that 9:35 is much slower than 9:05-9:15.

I would agree that there simply are not many full rides out there for track/xc runners.

As a distance runner you would need to be able to be a top 10 guy on your xc team for scholarship potential. Be able to be all-conference for full ride consideration, or for those that are 800/milers be able to score during the outdoor season.

Your best bet for much scolarship money is via the academic route and student aid packages. I would be more than willing to bet that no school in the nation has more than 5 guys on full-ride track scholarships, that is across all event areas. Most probably don't have a single team member on a full ride by a track scholarship

Full ride for a guy? Slim odds.

More than what you do at the HS level, you need to demonstrate the potential to score big points in your college conference meets and make an impact on the regional and national scene almost right away.

Some coaches base their scholarships on how your time will do on the conference level.

I disagree slightly wrote:

hmmmmmmmmm wrote:

As a Junior you'd probably need to run near the following times to get a full ride in a competitive school. Key word is competitive. I've seen 16:00 flat gets get full rides to D1 schools.

5k: around 15:30

3200: around 9:30

1600: around 4:20

That would get you on the radar for most good schools but want guarantee you anything.

everything is relative though. I sent a kid to Colorado with only a 9:20 3200 who got a full ride so it depends on a lot of different things.

Do you realize how rare full rides are in track? A 920 guy getting a full ride at CU must have had other circumstances (Great grades/SATs that got him an academic scholarship, a terrific financial aid package, school uses all 12.6 scholarships on distance runners, etc)

I do realize how rare a full ride is in track. I help at least 2 or 3 guys a year get scholarships to all different levels of schools. Rarely do any get a full ride. This one did get a full athletic ride to Colorado with only a 9:20 3200.

Having said that he did run much better in XC almost qualifying for footlocker (never broke 15:00 though). Wetmore took a chance on him and it paid off. My point behind telling about this athlete is that sometimes kids running slightly slower times do get full rides to very good schools. Good coaches look at a lot things not just times.

There are no full rides in track. Coaches will help get as many grants and loans to facilitate a full ride, but all the "full rides scholarships" allowed by the NCAA get split up.

My son was injured and did not run track as a junior. As a senior he ran 9:15 and 4:15, and in a number of national caliber CC meets the previous fall (Manhattan, and Great American) ran well and was very competitive. He was never a state champion. He recieved a full ride at a mid-pack SEC school - not AR but not MS. He had excellent grades, strong SAT scores and wanted to go to that school because of the academiics he was pursuing. So yes - it can be done with the times above but I think many factors come into play to match their needs and yours. His situation was unique.

a friend of mine recently graduated highschool with a 47.5 400 and went to a low end D1 school and got 7k a year (which is the largest scholarship they have given to a track and field/xc athlete) probably only 50% of the yearly cost at that school

Your best bet is going to an Ivy if you qualify for their need-based aid. You'll get an edge on admissions for being an athlete and potentially a full ride if your family isn't too wealthy.

sub 9 as a junior might get you a full ride, but to be honest, most good teams out there, you probably wouldn't.