My old man just named me Sue - learned to fight as a result. Found my old man years later, beat him up bad. Plan on naming my son - Bill or Bob, anything but Sue.
My old man just named me Sue - learned to fight as a result. Found my old man years later, beat him up bad. Plan on naming my son - Bill or Bob, anything but Sue.
CCMom wrote:
Coward wrote:Promise me, son, not to do the things I've done.
Walk away from trouble if you can.
It won't mean you're weak if you turn the other cheek.
I hope you're old enough to understand:
Son, you don't have to fight to be a man!"
Yes, but remember that the last chorus of this song is changed to "Sometimes you've got to fight when you're a man." (Refers to a guy avenging his girl's beating and (implied) rape).
But this boy doesn't have a strong male influence in his life like Tommy did. This one is a sensitive, artsy-type raised by a stay-at-home father. Not the same as a hardened criminal Dad who died in prison. Plus, it's obvious he'll never have a girlfriend like Becky if you know what I mean (NTTAWWT).
I do give it a 5/10 just b/c it involves a kid.
Get your son involved in sports. This race looks right up his alley. Perhaps a father/son day.
Teach your son to defend himself. No one says it has to be fair. The goal is to get the kid to stop picking on someone. Teach your son to kick in the balls. Hard.
Also teach your kid how to handle a stick or baseball bat. Show him how to knock the other kid silly.
Otherwise your kid will grow up afraid. It will put you in trouble, and your kid will be feared. This can only result in good things later in life, rather than tons of cash for therapy.
Yeah but... wrote:
No. But your son will sue you when he gets older for making him sensitive and not teaching him to fight.
One punch and three days off from school for fighting. Problem solved.
Mehdi Baala?
Can I sue trolls for asking dumb questions?
Contact the teacher and the principal today. Stop wasting your time on the internet. If the school does not take swift and decisive action on the bullying, then pull your kid from the school. If you can't do that, go to school administrators and get a lawyer. Do not tolerate bullying in your kid's school for one minute. Bullying can seriously damage your child's mental health, as well as his education. Also, the kid that is doing the bullying is more than likely either being abused or neglected at home or has serious mental health issues. That kid needs help as much as your kid does.
The days of "boys will be boys" and "bullying is a part of growing up" are over. Any employee or administrator of a school who is unable to protect your child needs to be fired.
Take your kid to a good self defense class (Karate or Judo) where they will teach him how to defend himself from an agressor. If taught properly, those classes are good for kids' self confidence and will not turn kids into agressors.
Actually I wasn't messing around; a friend at work did this with kids about the same age. Your whole van scenario would be a diasaster. You could confront the parents of the bully. Looks like it couldn't really make things worse.
In the second grade my son came running in the house and grabbed our Doberman and was about to go outside. I asked him what he was doing and he said he was chased home by this bully and his friends. I grabbed him and put him in the car and did not say a word except "Do you see them". He pointed them out I pulled up got out and got out of the car with my son. He thought I was going to give the kid a beatdown...But I surprised him and said if you do not haul off and punch this kid right in the nose I am going to "WHIP" you. He did and never had another problem. He is a world class sprinter now!!!
iuoiuiouiou wrote:
Often, I see others want to make this about the individual being bullied when, really, it's about the bully and the bully's parents. "Oh, that person should really stand up and learn to defend themselves." The individual being bullied is not the problem. The bully is the problem and 100% of the problem is theirs. I'm all for teaching kids to stand up/defend themselves but some individuals, for whatever reason, cannot. It's easy to shift the blame around and blame everyone but the bully.
It isn't about shifting blame. It's about dealing with a problem. Sure, it's the bully's fault. So what? Declaring that the bully is the problem doesn't do a thing to resove the issue.
You'll deal with people who cause problems for you all your life. If you want to be happy and successful, you'll learn to deal with them. Sitting down and saying "well it's his fault" might make you feel better, but it won't solve anything.
Here is what you should do.
Find out the bully's name and subscribe him to a bunch of nasty gay porn magazines. You know how that works, the whole bill-me-later thing.
Let that go on and in about a month, have your son say something to him about ordering gay magazines. The bully will be all "WTF?" and think your son is totally nuts.
It worked for me one time. I got the bully all self-conscious and he got totally beat by his father.
Another thing you can do is order funeral flowers to their house with a note that says, "your son is a bully. make sure it ends today."
You can do this using a pre-paid visa card and a fake name via 1-800-flowers or something like that.
There all all kinds of ways to mess with this bully and his family to give him a taste of his own medicine in a legal way.
If you follow him in a van, you'll end up being buttraped in prison.
So I took your advice and called the school. I spoke to an assistant principal or something, and they said I needed proof!?! Really? It's not enough proof that my son comes home crying, and one time he a bruise on his arm??? Seriously. How am I supposed to get proof, and what does proof constitute? Do I send my boy to school with a hidden video camera?
She also said that none of the teachers had reported anything on the particular kid (the bully). Figures. So, do I have any legal options BEFORE I get "proof?" I think it's a little early to be saying I should pull my kid from the school... that would be pretty inconvenient (if even possible) considering the closest elementary school is 4x the distance away from our home and buses to that school don't run in our neighborhood.
I already have the whole van-kidnapper-molester option. How else can I take this into my own hands and just deal with it?
Okay, I promise this is my last post but I remember another thing I did one time.
I signed a guy up for a whole bunch of weird physical newsletters like nambla and fetish stuff. All you have to do is look online for this stuff and search for the weirdest thing you can think of. You'll eventually find a group that has a physical newsletter, I promise. Subscribe him to that and some are even COD.
Your bully is only in 3rd grade though, so you could possibly do something like sign him up for free tampons or soemthing, I dont know.
someone has to convince me that it is bad parenting to teach a child to defend himself. Seriously.
Today, he comes home from school, you talk to him man-to-man, say you are going to a self defense class. You take him there, you do it together for a few times.
Your son will never forget this, his entire life, I promise. he will tell his wife and his kids the story.
So your son has 3 or 4 lessons of how to defend himself. The other kid has zero, most likely. Serious edge there.
Make your son practice hitting things, hard. pillows, probably. he will resist this, but make him hit something as hard as he possibly can. This may test your mettle as a parent/leader.
Then promise the kid that if he gets suspended for fighting you will support him 100% if it is pure self-defense. Tell him that he may lose, but that is ok. he needs to be prepared to do this again if need be.
And send him on his way. the key is the pillow-hitting stage - for gentle kids it is very hard to hit things. You have to make him do it.
Tell me why that is bad parenting.
Between all the brilliant ideas in this thread it's hard to choose, so I say do all 3:
1. Chase the other kid in your van pretending to be a child molester. Make sure and tell him who you are so that he thinks he will be molested if he messes with your son any more.
2. Force your son to fight the other kid by telling your son you will whip him unless he beats the other kid up. Be there in person to motivate your son while the kids fight.
3. Sue the other parents. You have such a good case, I wouldn't bother with a lawyer. Just write up your own lawsuit and file it.
Sounds like your kid is a liar.
You should over react and act like this has never happened to anyone ever in the history of the earth.
worker b wrote:
Tell me why that is bad parenting.
Well, for one, this can be extremely dangerous these days. Maybe not in this particular situation (3rd grade), but kids get killed in school fights. The bully might have 3 friends who knock the son down and they all start kicking him in the head. Sadly, this happens.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/27/beating-death-of-derrien_n_301319.htmlFor real I don't know who the bigger puss is you or your son. Sue the parents??! I want to punch you in the face for just typing that. Have your son punch this kid in the throat and when he goes down stomp his ass. An epic beat down even in 3rd grade will last through high school. You are letting your kid become a younger pussier version of yourself.
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