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Fonzie
RE: Lance Armstrong takes 2nd in his first Ironman 2/12/2012 4:27PM - in reply to LanceLegstrong Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I've done wonders with #3.
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RE: Lance Armstrong takes 2nd in his first Ironman 2/12/2012 4:35PM - in reply to LanceLegstrong Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Very cool! Go Lance!
VoR
RE: Lance Armstrong takes 2nd in his first Ironman 2/12/2012 5:00PM - in reply to LanceLegstrong Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
From what I've heard the top three in this race weren't given drug tests. Only random testing was done.

Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Jan Ulrich
RE: Lance Armstrong takes 2nd in his first Ironman 2/12/2012 5:10PM - in reply to racer xxx Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
racer xxx wrote:

[quote]Steve McQueen wrote:

Is it just me or do those swim times seem incredibly fast for a 1.2 mile open water swim?


Based on the bike and swim splits, looks like Chris Lieto and lance cam in together on the bike. Lance was out there alone and when Lieto caught him, he just went with it, getting some experience. I'm guessing he could have blown them away by more on the bike, but he isn't sure what to expect on the run yet. Give him a little time.[/quote]

Nope not how it went down. Lieto and Lance were chasing a Frenchman for the 1st half of the bike, so Lance was never out there alone.
recovering trigeek
RE: Lance Armstrong takes 2nd in his first Ironman 2/12/2012 5:10PM - in reply to TrackCoach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
TrackCoach wrote:

This is a good result by every measure!

I am especially suprised at how well he did in the swim, which is a very technical event.


I worked out in swimming with Lance for about 6 months in the late 80's when he was a teenage triathlete. I had been a very good collegiate swimmer and I was one of the top swimmers in the triathlon community at that time. He was nearly as fast as I was after a couple of months of training. I have seen and trained with a number of the best athletes in the world in swimming and distance running. From my training with and observations of Lance, he is the most talented endurance athlete I have seen in over 30 years of being a serious athlete and hardcore endurance sports fan.
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RE: Lance Armstrong takes 2nd in his first Ironman 2/12/2012 5:40PM - in reply to recovering trigeek Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Any video of the race available online now?
55%d
RE: Lance Armstrong takes 2nd in his first Ironman 2/12/2012 5:51PM - in reply to Yfhfufncudj1 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Because Lance is so good at multisport, I suspect he's probably a better all-around athlete than 99% of the runners at the Olympics.
sofa king stoopid
RE: Lance Armstrong takes 2nd in his first Ironman 2/12/2012 6:44PM - in reply to VoR Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
According to Rasmus Henning's facebook page, this is correct.
Lars Vance
RE: Lance Armstrong takes 2nd in his first Ironman 2/12/2012 6:54PM - in reply to sofa king stoopid Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
2 Armstrong, Lance 0:19:22 2:10:18 1:17:01 3:50:55

There is not a chance that the run was accurate. After watching Lance in the NYC marathon a few times, there is just no way he goes 1:17 after swimmiing and biking. Unless he's lost a ton of weight, and "spun" or whatever they want to call "jogging" the bike, he just could not run a full 13.1 miles in 1:17. It's short for sure.
I <3 Tacos
RE: Lance Armstrong takes 2nd in his first Ironman 2/12/2012 7:01PM - in reply to Lars Vance Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Lars Vance wrote:

2 Armstrong, Lance 0:19:22 2:10:18 1:17:01 3:50:55

There is not a chance that the run was accurate. After watching Lance in the NYC marathon a few times, there is just no way he goes 1:17 after swimmiing and biking. Unless he's lost a ton of weight, and "spun" or whatever they want to call "jogging" the bike, he just could not run a full 13.1 miles in 1:17. It's short for sure.


You realize this is a half ironman and not a local sprint tri right? The distance is legit. Sorry you can't run a 1:17 as just a runner.
Oh Please
RE: Lance Armstrong takes 2nd in his first Ironman 2/12/2012 7:07PM - in reply to I <3 Tacos Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I have to admit that I'm moderately surprised by Lance's result, particularly the non-bike splits.

I don't think he'll ever be a serious contender in Hawaii, but it does appear he will be a lot better than I gave him credit for.
Lars Vance
RE: Lance Armstrong takes 2nd in his first Ironman 2/12/2012 7:09PM - in reply to I <3 Tacos Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I <3 Tacos wrote:

You realize this is a half ironman and not a local sprint tri right? The distance is legit. Sorry you can't run a 1:17 as just a runner.


Of course I realize that. The reason I stated the above is not based on your local sprint tri, but suppoesed "legit" courses being advertised as such. There are numerous threads in here on the fudge factor allowable under triathlon association rules, and this course must have maxed out the allowable under-distance to remain "certified," because Lance just isn't a 1:17 guy after swimming and bking. He may PR a 1:17 certified half on it's own, but no way as raced above.
Iron Men
RE: Lance Armstrong takes 2nd in his first Ironman 2/12/2012 7:14PM - in reply to Curious distance runner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Curious distance runner wrote:

He didn't even have the fastest bike split...2 of those guys in the top 10 had faster bike splits then him.


I remember when Armstrong competed at the high level when he was a kid, cycling was his worst leg if I can recall correctly. Been a while
cyhawk
RE: Lance Armstrong takes 2nd in his first Ironman 2/12/2012 7:18PM - in reply to Lars Vance Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Lars Vance wrote:

2 Armstrong, Lance 0:19:22 2:10:18 1:17:01 3:50:55

There is not a chance that the run was accurate. After watching Lance in the NYC marathon a few times, there is just no way he goes 1:17 after swimmiing and biking. Unless he's lost a ton of weight, and "spun" or whatever they want to call "jogging" the bike, he just could not run a full 13.1 miles in 1:17. It's short for sure.


He has lost a lot of weight. And is actually training seriously now. And may also be on drugs/blood doping now. And he obviously did not ride his bike very hard (for him).
dumb
RE: Lance Armstrong takes 2nd in his first Ironman 2/12/2012 7:25PM - in reply to TrackCoach Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
TrackCoach wrote:

This is a good result by every measure!

Keep in mind that Lance is a long distance cyclist, the IM bike is not a big advantage for Lance. Also, Lance's age puts him past his peak for world class triathlate. I am especially suprised at how well he did in the swim, which is a very technical event.


You are crazy, the bike is a huge advantage for LA. Keep in mind that he is also among the greatest time trialists in the world. Virtually nothing could suit his strengths more than a half or full IM bike.
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RE: Lance Armstrong takes 2nd in his first Ironman 2/12/2012 8:33PM - in reply to LanceLegstrong Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
LanceLegstrong wrote:

So Lance did his first Ironman this morning in Panama and finished 2nd. Proves what a total joke that sport is. He should have no problems winning in Hawaii.


If it is such a joke, why don't you become a triathlete and clean up. Yeah, that's what I thought.
the used to be cancer guy
RE: Lance Armstrong takes 2nd in his first Ironman 2/12/2012 8:43PM - in reply to Ghost of Old Tom Black Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Ghost of Old Tom Black wrote:

Saw an interview where he said the bike was a lot more tactical than he expected. Remember no drafting. Also commented about saving some legs for the run. He commented, "Bike for show. Run for dough." So he seems to think that you need to be a strong runner to win.


The winner ran 1:12+ for whatever distance that was. Still fast. Even if it was 12 miles, that's still 6 minute pace.
sam gaga
RE: Lance Armstrong takes 2nd in his first Ironman 2/12/2012 10:14PM - in reply to the used to be cancer guy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Rasmus Henning has run a 30 minute 10k and only outsplit lance by a few seconds. Lance is really @#$ing fast. I can't believe it myself. Bevan Docherty could probably run a 29 flat open 10k.
Lars Vance
RE: Lance Armstrong takes 2nd in his first Ironman 2/12/2012 10:38PM - in reply to sam gaga Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
For all you tri-boys, here are the rules. Dream all you want, Lance


For an actual running road race half-marathon:
IAAF COMPETITION RULES 2008
RULE 240
Road Races
The length of the course shall not be less than the official distance for the event. In competitions under Rules 1.1(a), (b), (c) and (f), the uncertainty in the measurement shall not exceed 0.1% (i.e. 42m for the Marathon) and the length of the course should have been certified in advance by an IAAF approved course measurer.

-So for a road half-marathon, the course could be short by 21 meters for the Half-Marathon distance.

For a triathlon:
ITU Competition Rules
N.2 Distances (b) Demanding and technical courses should always be preferred. A 5% error margin will be accepted for the cycle and run course provided the margin has been approved by the Technical Delegate.

So for a Triatlon Half-Marathon, the course could be short by 1.05 kilometres (~0.654925 miles) for the Triathlon Half-Marathon distance.

http://www.triathlon.org/docs/competition-rules-20080601-vf.pdf
AR today, WR tomorrow
RE: Lance Armstrong takes 2nd in his first Ironman 2/12/2012 10:50PM - in reply to Lars Vance Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Lars Vance wrote:

For all you tri-boys, here are the rules. Dream all you want, Lance

For a triathlon:
ITU Competition Rules
N.2 Distances (b) Demanding and technical courses should always be preferred. A 5% error margin will be accepted for the cycle and run course provided the margin has been approved by the Technical Delegate.

So for a Triatlon Half-Marathon, the course could be short by 1.05 kilometres (~0.654925 miles) for the Triathlon Half-Marathon distance.

http://www.triathlon.org/docs/competition-rules-20080601-vf.pdf


I'm a runner, not a triathlete, but according to your post, the triathlon course could also be 1.05 kilometers LONG. Try to dial back the attitude too, tough guy.
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