this is all very good & from your personal acquaintances it does sound reasonable
confirmed if anyone requires by recent 1/2M in dehli offering truckload of $$$ compared to diamond league centisimos !!!
this needs huge highlighting
this is good ole days when no worry chasing centimos on track in golden-4/golden-league...
this was chasing clock as in cologne
( my favorite ever meet to watch - often spectacular even in poor/terrible conditions !!!
& all it was was "proper" 8-lane track with guaranteed auto-timing going back to at least late-'60s when either one of german 2-pronged panzers of bodo or norpoth nearly broke 1500 euro record there, no mickey-mouse whatsoever
greatest meet of all time !!! )
no !!!
that is very, very wrong
huge numbers of guys in past decade+ couda beaten 800 - 10k WRs
you really do have no idea of ability, even with guy you coached as in Silas ?!
if you come on here, you will get critique
you are an elite coach, but not to say with the Kenyan substrate such as Komen who coud run on whacked-legs off stoopid opener of 57+ at just 20y :
7'20
then we have Korir, who was a nobody until last year then exported by Ereng, got some serious weight-training in just barely 1-off season & ran
43.34R
one of the top-few anchors in history !!!
& he did this off just barely 1 winter of weight-training, ever !!!
https://youtu.be/rV56kgDp0eg?t=338here is Iphone clip of how a 1-year weight-trained Kenyan can run 43.34 !!!
https://youtu.be/_Vxu-54iSEo?t=145tell us how you can develop 44-flat speed in Kenyans off
"no weights" ???
it is impossible to fail with talent turning up
7'20 was just another buffalo-herder turning up
yes
$ is most important consideration in track today & win is all that counts apart from that occasional stockholm diamond
that is nonsense
you don't even know how quick Silas was when he ran 3'27.64 !!!
- Silas
he got tripped by soulemain on 1st lap, stumbled & lost some speed
he had some wide bend running included
he was absolute crap to 800, somewhere 1'53+, finishing last 700 at 3'22+ !!!
you coached him :
did you realise that the day Silas ran 3'27.64, if he'd got his perfect run, drafted to bell at even-pace, he shouda run
~ 3'25-high !!!
then we have numerous others
- Sammy
who in '05, at 18y !!!, ran 26'41 running 26'16 !!! pace at 6k
his coach who is japanese & perhaps used weight-training, said
- Komon 26'44
this was Komen-esque
26'44 on loop course when no one else has yet broken 27 shows how incredible his shape was that day !!!
that is 26-low track run -> WR
& that -> definite sub-12'40
Kamwo !!!
his cardiff shape was off the scale !!!
even adola who debuted with 2"03+ & looked for long time to beat Eliud, was running cardiff & he said
"~ Kamwo fell over not 1 time but 2nd time & then 3rd time !!!
so many runners charging
Kamwo got up finally & charged off !!!
he has power
he has lot of power !!!"
no ethiopian ever gave any Kenyan an atom of praise
adola was awed by the power of Kamwo in cardiff
i assure you those indicated track shape that day of, now please sit down & take stiff lambrusco
52.00 / 1'48.50
->
3'31.09
7'19.05 !
12'32.48 !!
26'01.22 !!!
i don't think there has lived a talent at Ryun level over 400, & even wade's intrinsic 42-mid-zurich doesn't match Ryun's '67 shape
i'd easily offer Kamwo in cardiff as 2nd best middle/distance runner in history
Kamwo in cardiff was in certainly greatest 10k shape ever seen, but he was running it off half-M training !!!
yes & no
circuit is only about wins, so times are irrelevant
a clock chase risks losing & big loss $
it is nearly impossible to chase clock from 800 up unless $ means nothing to guy
that is poor argument
kennster was forced into hard sprint by some 3rd rate unknown Kenyan who charged last 2 laps !!
that chump also ran 26'43 !!
that chump if flat out, accounting for nonsense 13'25 opening split was in
~ 26'30 / 26'35
that guy was nobody that next year in Kenyan trials in eugene in expexcted career best shape, he was not even in top-5 !!!
he shouda been in 26'20 - 26'25 shape in eugene & where did he finish ?
what does that say abot potential flat-out shape of guys ahead ?
that is a tough question...
gold standard is paced to 1/2-way & solo last 1/2
if drafted to 1/2way, he wouda been looking at 61-flat
so it woud be 61-flat/66-low splits
those are "expected" splits for a 2"06-flat run
physics offers little generosity...
the underlying rescues you
even if you have no clue like Ereng to shape a 45+/46 guy to 44-flat intrinsic like Korir, you have grace to offer guys are ruined by win-only targets