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5000m World Record Splits: A Progression 6/10/2004 8:39AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Arthur Robinson (1908)- 15:01.2
Hannes Kolehmainen (1912)- 14:36.6 (2:45.5, 3:01.5, 2:59, 2:54, 2:56.6)
Paavo Nurmi (1922)- 14:35.4
Paavo Nurmi (1924)- 14:28.2 (2:48.6, 2:54.6, 2:57.1, 2:56.7, 2:51.2)
Lauri Lehtinen (1932)- 14:16.9 (2:46.5, 2:54.0, 2:55.5, 2:57.5, 2:43.4)
Taisto Maki (1939)- 14:08.8 (2:46.0, 2:53.0, 2:53.5, 2:52.0, 2:44.3)
Emil Zatopek (1942)- 13:58.2 (2:40.0, 2:47.0, 2:51.5, 2:50.5, 2:49.2)
Vladimir Kuts (1954)- 13:56.6 (2:44.0, 2:52.7, 2:47.2, 2:48.4, 2:44.3)
Chris Chataway (1954)- 13:51.6 (2:41.5, 2:50.1, 2:44.9, 2:53.4, 2:41.7)
Vladimir Kuts (1954)- 13:51.2 (2:38.4, 2:52.4, 2:51.8, 2:45.0, 2:43.6)
Sandor Iharos (1955)- 13:50.8 (2:44.0, 2:49.4, 2:49.8, 2:46.4, 2:41.2)
Vladimir Kuts (1955)- 13:46.8 (2:42.0, 2:48.0, 2:46.0, 2:50.0, 2:40.8)
Sandor Iharos (1955)- 13:40.6 (2:42.0, 2:46.0, 2:48.0, 2:51.0, 2:33.6)
Gordon Pirie (1956)- 13:36.8 (2:36.0, 2:46.0, 2:47.0, 2:48.0, 2:39.8)
Vladimir Kuts (1957)- 13:35.0 (2:37.8, 2:46.5, 2:44.4, 2:44.2, 2:42.1)
Ron Clarke (1965)- 13:34.8 (2:43.8, 2:43.6, 2:44.4, 2:43.1, 2:39.8)
Ron Clarke (1965)- 13:33.6 (2:39.5, 2:41.9, 2:48.0, 2:46.1, 2:38.0)
Ron Clarke (1965)- 13:25.8 (2:39.1, 2:41.3, 2:43.7, 2:44.6, 2:37.0)
Kipchoge Keino (1965)- 13:24.2 (4:16.0, 4:17.8, 4:24.8)
Ron Clarke (1966)- 13:16.6 (2:40.2, 2:36.2, 2:41.0, 2:41.6, 2:37.6)
Lasse Viren (1972)- 13:16.4 (2:36.6, 2:41.9, 2:41.8, 2:42.3, 2:33.7)
Emiel Puttemans (1972)- 13:13.0 (2:33.7, 2:38.3, 2:39.2, 2:44.4, 2:37.4)
Dick Quax (1977)- 13:12.86 (2:39.21, 2:39.21, 2:37.51, 2:42.99, 2:33.94)
Henry Rono (1978)- 13:08.4 (2:42.0, 2:36.0, 2:39.5, 2:37.0, 2:33.9)
Henry Rono (1981)- 13:06.20 (2:38.5, 2:38.5, 2:38.0, 2:38.0, 2:33.2)
David Moorcroft (1982)- 13:00.41 (2:38.0, 2:34.6, 2:37.6, 2:38.5, 2:31.7)
Said Aouita (1985)- 13:00.40 (2:35.14, 2:38.68, 2:37.18, 2:41.16, 2:28.24)
Said Aoiuta (1987)- 12:58.39 (2:35.35, 2:37.68, 2:33.34, 2:39.68, 2:32.34)
Haile Gebrselassie (1994)- 12:56.96 (2:36.6, 2:37.1, 2:37.2, 2:37.4, 2:28.7)
Moses Kiptanui (1995)- 12:55.30 (2:35.2, 2:36.6, 2:35.2, 2:36.2, 2:32.1)
Haile Gebrselassie (1995)- 12:44.39 (2:34.3, 2:34.7, 2:34.0, 2:31.2, 2:30.2)
Haile Gebrselassie (1997)- 12:41.86 (2:34.6, 2:32.0, 2:31.6, 2:35.0, 2:28.7)
Daniel Komen (1997)- 12:39.74 (2:32.7, 2:32.7, 2:31.9, 2:31.21, 2:31.21)
Haile Gebrselassie (1998)- 12:39.36 (2:34.8, 2:31.6, 2:32.9, 2:32.8, 2:27.3)
Kenenisa Bekele (2004)- 12:37.35 (2:33.24, 2:32.23, 2:31.87, 2:30.59, 2:29.42)

* Thanks to "A World History of Long Distance Running", Quercetani, Roberto L. (2002) & IAAF
5000m
RE: 5000m World Record Splits: A Progression 6/10/2004 10:25AM - in reply to GRod Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
According to those splits, Bekele ran the last 3000m in 7:31.88!
I think
RE: 5000m World Record Splits: A Progression 6/10/2004 11:01AM - in reply to 5000m Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Drugs are a wonderful thing. Look at the dramatic drop in the mid-ninties. It is really sad for all future athletes to be judged agaisnt these times.
McGruffTheDrugDog
RE: 5000m World Record Splits: A Progression 6/10/2004 11:15AM - in reply to I think Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
woof 20 years to drop from 13:16 - 12:58, (~18sec), 9 years to go from ~12:57 - 12:37 (~20 sec) woof
motor city
RE: 5000m World Record Splits: A Progression 6/10/2004 11:48AM - in reply to McGruffTheDrugDog Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
from 54 to 56 the record dropped 20 sec.
SolRichards
RE: 5000m World Record Splits: A Progression 6/10/2004 12:02PM - in reply to motor city Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Have to wonder about the way all of the times droped such a great deal in such a sort deal of time. The 10k went from 27:10 in 89 to 26:20 today. And the 27:10 was produce by A.Barros in his prime. That guy was born at ALT, was no slouch, and Trained at ALT very hard. I am not one to ring the dopeing bell, but have to wonder if something is not going on with these huge drops in time. When the Thon times have not gotten that much better, and the track times have. Makes me wonder.

Mr. Tergot is no slouch, has run faster then anyone else over the thon. And is nowhere near running a 26:20, never was even in his prime track years. Koman ran 2 miles in 3:58. That is about 7:20 for 3k, Bekele ran with in ten seconds of that, and then ran 2000m more meetrs getting faster!.

Befor I buy any of these records I want to see the drug tests.
JM955
RE: 5000m World Record Splits: A Progression 6/10/2004 12:04PM - in reply to motor city Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Bannister and technology in the 50s...drugs today and in the 90s.
1337hax0r
RE: 5000m World Record Splits: A Progression 6/10/2004 12:22PM - in reply to GRod Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Everyone wrote:
Blah Blah Blah
House of Cards
RE: 5000m World Record Splits: A Progression 6/10/2004 12:36PM - in reply to 1337hax0r Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

1337hax0r wrote:


Everyone wrote:
Blah Blah Blah




hahahaha
Born to be a bum
RE: 5000m World Record Splits: A Progression 6/10/2004 12:48PM - in reply to House of Cards Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
How much a part has track technology played in the records. I started out on cinders and grass. My times dropped enormously when I first raced on an all weather track, at least 2 seconds per lap.

I have to join with many of you though in doubting the honesty of many athletes today. Cheating is so normal in our society today, popping a few pills to go faster, further etc. is just no big deal to many competitors. It is to me though, I f!"£$%& hate the b""£$^&!. It is killing the sport in the eyes of joe public and old buggers like me that loved to race, win lose or draw.
Michael Bautista
RE: 5000m World Record Splits: A Progression 6/10/2004 1:52PM - in reply to Born to be a bum Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
from 1954 to 1966 the 5k wr went from 13:58 to 13:16!! =-O=-O=-O

in the past 10 years the 5k wr has dropped like 20 seconds or so...this was caused by emergence of kenyans/ethiopians and/or drugs......but was there any new training methods around?

Also, why the huge drop in 5k wr in 54-66? (42 seconds)?
e-
RE: 5000m World Record Splits: A Progression 6/10/2004 3:38PM - in reply to SolRichards Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I hate to burst your bubble, but Tergat ran 26:29, which is pretty damn close to 26:20. I'm pretty sure he could still pop out a <27:00
ban fpw
RE: 5000m World Record Splits: A Progression 6/10/2004 3:58PM - in reply to I think Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

I think wrote:

Drugs are a wonderful thing. Look at the dramatic drop in the mid-ninties. It is really sad for all future athletes to be judged agaisnt these times.


You mean the drop in times from the same person? Haile G? Look at the times again:

Haile Gebrselassie (1994)- 12:56.96 (2:36.6, 2:37.1, 2:37.2, 2:37.4, 2:28.7)
Moses Kiptanui (1995)- 12:55.30 (2:35.2, 2:36.6, 2:35.2, 2:36.2, 2:32.1)
Haile Gebrselassie (1995)- 12:44.39 (2:34.3, 2:34.7, 2:34.0, 2:31.2, 2:30.2)

So you are saying that he was clean in 1994, and then he started taking drugs in 1995 and he dropped 12 seconds? Explain yourself.
AreYouWithMeSoFar?
RE: 5000m World Record Splits: A Progression 6/10/2004 4:16PM - in reply to I think Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yeah, it sucks, the faster these 5000 times get, the more I think about quiting running and starting to train for the Tour de France. I have great bicycling form and I'm perfectly constructed to be a "mountain goat."
Jzs
RE: 5000m World Record Splits: A Progression 6/10/2004 4:28PM - in reply to SolRichards Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Paul T. is the third fastest human @ 10k, 26:27.85. What are you talking about? Close enough to be in the club of those that have run under 26:30.


SolRichards wrote:

Have to wonder about the way all of the times droped such a great deal in such a sort deal of time. The 10k went from 27:10 in 89 to 26:20 today. And the 27:10 was produce by A.Barros in his prime. That guy was born at ALT, was no slouch, and Trained at ALT very hard. I am not one to ring the dopeing bell, but have to wonder if something is not going on with these huge drops in time. When the Thon times have not gotten that much better, and the track times have. Makes me wonder.

Mr. Tergot is no slouch, has run faster then anyone else over the thon. And is nowhere near running a 26:20, never was even in his prime track years. Koman ran 2 miles in 3:58. That is about 7:20 for 3k, Bekele ran with in ten seconds of that, and then ran 2000m more meetrs getting faster!.

Befor I buy any of these records I want to see the drug tests.
RunningPhreak
RE: 5000m World Record Splits: A Progression 6/11/2004 4:19AM - in reply to Jzs Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
If you plot the 5k times vs year and do a linear progression analysis you will see that the WR progression has not increased nor shows signs of slowing down in the last 90 years. By 2012 the WR will be around 12:10.
the referee
RE: 5000m World Record Splits: A Progression 6/11/2004 5:13AM - in reply to RunningPhreak Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
RunningPhreak, please refrain from interjecting actual facts into a LetsRun.com drug rant. If it happens again you will be penalized 15 yards and loss of down for unsportsmanlike conduct.
thinking back
RE: 5000m World Record Splits: A Progression 6/11/2004 7:18AM - in reply to the referee Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Slope of linear fit 1908-2004: -1.45
Slope of linear fit 1908-1982: -1.50
Slope of linear fit 1985-2004: -1.40
This neither proves innocence nor guilt. It does show that whats happened in the last 20 years is fairly consistent with the entire century. It also shows that the WR has progressed slightly slower in the last 20 years than the previous 80. What it doesn't show are major social movements (i.e. immergence of training camps in Africa or $$/fame for Africans that hadn't previously existed). Nor does it show the limits of the human body. Interesting nonetheless.
RunningPhreak
RE: 5000m World Record Splits: A Progression 6/11/2004 10:10AM - in reply to thinking back Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Sorry, all I meant was they will have to invent stronger drugs to keep the trend going. Carry on...
Amp
RE: 5000m World Record Splits: A Progression 10/27/2012 3:30PM - in reply to RunningPhreak Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It's 2012, and the world record is still 12:37