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the unproven
RE: Galen Rupp Has NO CHANCE At Lagat's 2 Mile AR 2/10/2012 11:34AM - in reply to can't be proven Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

can't be proven wrote: The way you've worded your original post, you can't possibly be proven right. How can it be proven that Rupp "has ZERO chance at running 8:10"? He either will run under 8:10 or he won't. But his odds of doing so are not revealed by his success or failure. His odds of running sub 8:10 could be greater than zero, but he could fail to run sub 8:10 anyway.

Rupp also has a minute chance (teeny-tiny) of running sub 8:00 and a microscopic chance (itsty-bitsy) of running sub 7:50.
isn't it oblivious
RE: Galen Rupp Has NO CHANCE At Lagat's 2 Mile AR 2/10/2012 11:47AM - in reply to the unproven Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
26:48 translates to 7:56.8 2m as well as 1:40 in the 800m. I think Galen has the strength for both
Jefe in the CO
RE: Galen Rupp Has NO CHANCE At Lagat's 2 Mile AR 2/10/2012 11:51AM - in reply to isn't it oblivious Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

isn't it oblivious wrote:

26:48 translates to 7:56.8 2m as well as 1:40 in the 800m. I think Galen has the strength for both


I'm with you on this one. He will use his leg speed through the first 2,800 meters and then go with his foot speed for the next 400 meters and then it's all arms.
albatross99
RE: Galen Rupp Has NO CHANCE At Lagat's 2 Mile AR 2/10/2012 12:13PM - in reply to Jesse was indeed a friend Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Please Galen, break 8:15 to shut up this loser who knows nothing about the sport.
You missed it
RE: Galen Rupp Has NO CHANCE At Lagat's 2 Mile AR 2/10/2012 12:15PM - in reply to Jesse was indeed a friend Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
sub 8:15 will be easy for him , sub 8:10 will be a challenge but can be done with paced help.
MIKEYMIKEMIKEY
RE: Galen Rupp Has NO CHANCE At Lagat's 2 Mile AR 2/10/2012 12:17PM - in reply to can't be proven Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Agreed. He will never be proven right, unless you ask him. Ironically, he posts under other names all the time to bolster himself up.


His Ritz prediction was a joke. He missed by 8 seconds, and this clown thinks he knew his fitness level that well to know he would come close, but not make it. Back to your parent's basement.
penguin marcher
RE: Galen Rupp Has NO CHANCE At Lagat's 2 Mile AR 2/10/2012 12:19PM - in reply to You missed it Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I hope you're right so this dipwad goes away, but we all know he will keep posting and claim some lame excuse as to how Galen got lucky.
maiden voyager stanford gal
RE: Galen Rupp Has NO CHANCE At Lagat's 2 Mile AR 2/10/2012 12:25PM - in reply to kent tekulve Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
u got it backwards pacho.

he needs people to say he's right.

bashing him & calling him out doesn't count.

anyone who does that and is a troll is quite insecure, not genius.

nice try jesse, aka kent tekulve
someone had to do it
RE: Galen Rupp Has NO CHANCE At Lagat's 2 Mile AR 2/10/2012 12:27PM - in reply to Bored at work 9:54am Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Bored at work 9:54am wrote:

Galen Rupp probably lacks Lagat's inherent speed. Lagat has a deadly kick and also has the WR for the 1500 at 3:26+. Rupp is excellent, but Lagat with the exception of EG is the most doped middle distance runner ever. I am sure Rupp will make the top 5 US list.


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not sure
RE: Galen Rupp Has NO CHANCE At Lagat's 2 Mile AR 2/10/2012 1:57PM - in reply to someone had to do it Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

someone had to do it wrote:

[quote]Bored at work 9:54am wrote:

Galen Rupp probably lacks Lagat's inherent speed. Lagat has a deadly kick and also has the WR for the 1500 at 3:26+. Rupp is excellent, but Lagat with the exception of EG is the most doped middle distance runner ever. I am sure Rupp will make the top 5 US list.


Fixed[/quote]

And Rupp isn't?
ventolin^3
RE: Galen Rupp Has NO CHANCE At Lagat's 2 Mile AR 2/10/2012 1:58PM - in reply to We Are Scientists Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

We Are Scientists wrote:So Rieti should be another 125/75 track, right?


no

rieti has 2 things going for it ( but no one believes it )

1) it is in a forested/countryside area with lot of trees & higher local O2 concentration

2) it is ~ 400m altitude which may be the ideal height for distance running - you still have virtually 100% O2 saturation due to shift of the haemoglobin-dissociation curve, but you have reduced air-resistance of 400m altitude to run thru

if you go here :

http://myweb.lmu.edu/jmureika/track/wind/400alt.html

& enter 58.756 ( average pace of 7'20.67 ) you get corrected : 58.855 ->

7'21.41

which means komen's run was aided by upto ~ 0.75s just for part 2
ventolin^3
RE: Galen Rupp Has NO CHANCE At Lagat's 2 Mile AR 2/10/2012 2:07PM - in reply to Concerned Citizen Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Concerned Citizen wrote:Any thoughts on why Geb was only good for 8:01, despite running the deuce several times and (I think) $1 million on the line for a sub-8?


i don't believe that ( assuming you mean outdoor 8'01 )

$1 million back in mid-'90s was huge

if that was on the line, he'd been running running 2 miles week in/week out on the circuit

using standard 1.08 conversion :

8'01 -> 7'25.4

& he he did run 7'25/7'26 a few times

the reason he didn't get close to 7'20 was that in all those outdoor races, the fastest the wabbit ever dragged him thru was 4'56 compared to komen's 4'53

geb never stood a chance off that mediocre pace

btw, he did get better pacing in his then 7'26.1iwr

if you believe indoors/outdoors is worth about 3s for 3k, that was a 7'23 effort
WI
RE: Galen Rupp Has NO CHANCE At Lagat's 2 Mile AR 2/10/2012 2:45PM - in reply to Bored at work 9:54am Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Fool, El G has the world record at 3:26.00. Lagat ran a 3:26.34 I believe be the second fastest individual over 1500m. I also believe this is the third fastest 1500m ever run.
Jesse was indeed a friend
RE: Galen Rupp Has NO CHANCE At Lagat's 2 Mile AR 2/10/2012 5:23PM - in reply to You missed it Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

You missed it wrote:

sub 8:15 will be easy for him , sub 8:10 will be a challenge but can be done with paced help.




You don't know much about the sport, do you? Sub 8:15 is NOT easy for any American, and certainly not Galen Rupp. It is easiest for Lagat, but he is now past his prime and it is no longer a joke for him, although he can do it, even indoors. Rupp is not the type of runner who can run fast by himself and he'll have to for the last part of this race. Rupp doesn't have the balls to do it, and yet I am not disparaging him, as VERY few people do, and so it is no surprise that he doesn't.
ventolin^3
RE: Galen Rupp Has NO CHANCE At Lagat's 2 Mile AR 2/10/2012 5:55PM - in reply to Jesse was indeed a friend Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Jesse was indeed a friend wrote:Rupp is not the type of runner who can run fast by himself and he'll have to for the last part of this race. Rupp doesn't have the balls to do it, and yet I am not disparaging him, as VERY few people do, and so it is no surprise that he doesn't.


drivel

in sol's then 26'58ar, rupp made the long drive from way out & ended up with 27'10+

sol drafted off him

rupp has all the balls, all the guts

& now he he is 20s better over 10k & you have the stoopidity to think that courage has devolved ???
ryan foreman
RE: Galen Rupp Has NO CHANCE At Lagat's 2 Mile AR 2/10/2012 6:01PM - in reply to Jesse was indeed a friend Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Actually what makes me skeptical he will do it is in thinking why does he even want to do it? If running 8:10 for a 2K in February was the end all be all of what he is training for, then he can definitely do it. But obviously his goal is running the best 10K in August that he can. If you are preparing for the Olympics it should almost be a badge of honor that you don't run that great in the indoor season. Look at Centrowitz last year.


Jesse was indeed a friend wrote:

[quote]You missed it wrote:

sub 8:15 will be easy for him , sub 8:10 will be a challenge but can be done with paced help.




You don't know much about the sport, do you? Sub 8:15 is NOT easy for any American, and certainly not Galen Rupp. It is easiest for Lagat, but he is now past his prime and it is no longer a joke for him, although he can do it, even indoors. Rupp is not the type of runner who can run fast by himself and he'll have to for the last part of this race. Rupp doesn't have the balls to do it, and yet I am not disparaging him, as VERY few people do, and so it is no surprise that he doesn't.[/quote]
Jesse was indeed a friend
RE: Galen Rupp Has NO CHANCE At Lagat's 2 Mile AR 2/10/2012 6:02PM - in reply to ventolin^3 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

ventolin^3 wrote:

[quote]Jesse was indeed a friend wrote:Rupp is not the type of runner who can run fast by himself and he'll have to for the last part of this race. Rupp doesn't have the balls to do it, and yet I am not disparaging him, as VERY few people do, and so it is no surprise that he doesn't.


drivel

in sol's then 26'58ar, rupp made the long drive from way out & ended up with 27'10+

sol drafted off him

rupp has all the balls, all the guts

& now he he is 20s better over 10k & you have the stoopidity to think that courage has devolved ???[/quote]


Idiot, Solinsky did NOT run 26:58, and furthermore, Rupp led very little of that race, perhaps 6 laps at most, and of course he wasn't able to go with Solinsky. Rupp has some guts, but not the type of guts to be a world beater, and certainly not the type requisite to chasing records by yourself.
someone had to do it
RE: Galen Rupp Has NO CHANCE At Lagat's 2 Mile AR 2/10/2012 6:21PM - in reply to not sure Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

not sure wrote:

And Rupp isn't?


Lagat tested positive. El Guerrouj comes from a drug culture. His own training partner tested positive for EPO. Galen has had steady improvement every year since high school. So no.

And 8:15 is easy for Galen. Teg ran 8 seconds faster, and Ritz, who has a slower 800, mile, 5k, and 10k PB than Rupp ran 8:11. How Jesse thinks 8:15 is out of his reach is beyond me.
Jesse was indeed a friend
RE: Galen Rupp Has NO CHANCE At Lagat's 2 Mile AR 2/10/2012 6:29PM - in reply to someone had to do it Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

someone had to do it wrote:

[quote]not sure wrote:

And Rupp isn't?


Lagat tested positive. El Guerrouj comes from a drug culture. His own training partner tested positive for EPO. Galen has had steady improvement every year since high school. So no.

And 8:15 is easy for Galen. Teg ran 8 seconds faster, and Ritz, who has a slower 800, mile, 5k, and 10k PB than Rupp ran 8:11. How Jesse thinks 8:15 is out of his reach is beyond me.[/quote]


First of all, Ritz has run faster at 5000m than Galen, and it isn't even close. Second, I don't think 8:15 is out of reach for Galen. He could have done it last year, and maybe could even do it tomorrow in a field which could pull him along (assuming he didn't fall). But those ingredients won't be there tomorrow, so he won't run faster than 8:15.
NOTArmstrongFan
RE: Galen Rupp Has NO CHANCE At Lagat's 2 Mile AR 2/10/2012 6:35PM - in reply to Jesse was indeed a friend Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He needs to be pulled along with better pacers. Definitely capable though with the right pacing.
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