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BS fake insider caller
RE: Simon Bairu sub-2:11 in Houston? 1/4/2012 4:03AM - in reply to poor planning again Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

poor planning again wrote:
I know that Jerry was clueless as to what it takes in the marathon when his athletes all ran their debuts in NY in 2010,


You "know" this? How? Please enlighten us.
shawtyhitdaclub
RE: Simon Bairu sub-2:11 in Houston? 1/4/2012 8:19AM - in reply to Hot, Hard Facts Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
How the hell is it betting when everything goes to charity win or lose? My nigga Bairu gon git it done. It should be -500 on the yes line(but it's not a real betting site) (sub211) cuz he got dat shit locked!
poor planning again
RE: Simon Bairu sub-2:11 in Houston? 1/4/2012 10:02AM - in reply to BS fake insider caller Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

BS fake insider caller wrote:


poor planning again wrote:
I know that Jerry was clueless as to what it takes in the marathon when his athletes all ran their debuts in NY in 2010,


You "know" this? How? Please enlighten us.


The results or lack there of, speak for themselves.
hmm lets think
RE: Simon Bairu sub-2:11 in Houston? 1/4/2012 11:50AM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Does anyone have his NYM splits for the race until he dropped out?

Says he started pulling back at the 4:20/mi range. If he's got that range of talent than he's got reason to give Reid a run for the top Canadian overall time.

Just curious what his 30k time was around. I'm sure he can figure out something 'easy' like a 4:40 pace then and cruise in to Canadian record areas.
OTC Member
RE: Simon Bairu sub-2:11 in Houston? 1/4/2012 1:33PM - in reply to poor planning again Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

poor planning again wrote:


BS fake insider caller wrote:


poor planning again wrote:
I know that Jerry was clueless as to what it takes in the marathon when his athletes all ran their debuts in NY in 2010,


You "know" this? How? Please enlighten us.


The results or lack there of, speak for themselves.

You mean Shalane Flanagan finishing second?
NFW
RE: Simon Bairu sub-2:11 in Houston? 1/4/2012 1:39PM - in reply to OTC Member Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You mean Shalane Flanagan finishing second?[/quote]

Careful bringing facts into the argument, you're liable to ruffle some feathers.
poor planning again
RE: Simon Bairu sub-2:11 in Houston? 1/4/2012 2:32PM - in reply to NFW Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Shalane finished second in a race that did not tell us anything about her ability to run the marathon. It was a 21 mile jog followed by a 5 mile race. I don't count that against Jerry but it is a push.

Nelson a 27:40 guy could only muster a 2:15 and Bairu couldn't finish.
Chicken Lover
RE: Simon Bairu sub-2:11 in Houston? 1/4/2012 3:36PM - in reply to poor planning again Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

poor planning again wrote:

Shalane finished second in a race that did not tell us anything about her ability to run the marathon. It was a 21 mile jog followed by a 5 mile race. I don't count that against Jerry but it is a push.

Nelson a 27:40 guy could only muster a 2:15 and Bairu couldn't finish.

Agreed, tactical races shouldn't count. They should introduce rabbits to the Olympic.
Phenom Man
RE: Simon Bairu sub-2:11 in Houston? 1/4/2012 6:55PM - in reply to Chicken Lover Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He doesn't get it because he's just not good enough. It's as simple as that
Olympic hope
RE: Simon Bairu sub-2:11 in Houston? 1/4/2012 9:21PM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Anyone have any info on fagan? We have a general idea where bairu is based on fall half marathons but am interested to see where fagan is. He seemed ready to rock at Chicago (and was at sub 2:10 at 40k) but had some fueling problems.

I still think if these 2 work together they can reach the finish line with very good results.
Beavis
RE: Simon Bairu sub-2:11 in Houston? 1/5/2012 7:37AM - in reply to TEG Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
In light of all of this Bairu talk, I am linking to a thread pertaining to a very special race, a day on which two men's fates would become inextricably tied to one another...

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=1116286
Wetcoast
RE: Simon Bairu sub-2:11 in Houston? 1/5/2012 10:22AM - in reply to Olympic hope Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
vegan canuck
RE: Simon Bairu sub-2:11 in Houston? 1/14/2012 1:30PM - in reply to bigtimedee Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
We'll soon find out
Off the Grid
RE: Simon Bairu sub-2:11 in Houston? 1/14/2012 2:27PM - in reply to vegan canuck Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
What if 1) Bairu runs 2:09 and 2)Wykes runs 2:09 this spring? Is Gillis out of luck? Will Gillis be trying again?

I realize Wykes' coach is also Coolsaet and Gillis', but this is the Olympics.
Cancantu
RE: Simon Bairu sub-2:11 in Houston? 1/14/2012 2:39PM - in reply to Off the Grid Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Wykes' does not have the same coach as Coolsaet and Gillis! If Bairu knocks down a good one tomorrow, Gillis has to plan on racing again as I am sure Wykes will get the time if he gets in a race with good conditions!
livelikeaballer
RE: Simon Bairu sub-2:11 in Houston? 1/14/2012 3:03PM - in reply to Off the Grid Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Wykes is running in P.F. Chang's Rock'n'Roll Half Marathon tomorrow as well, then his marathon is in Japan next month, I believe.

Gillis is building up to run Rotterdam, as is Rob Watson (one of his teammates) if he needs to.

And as the poster above me said, Dylan's coach is Richard Lee in Vancouver (previously Steve Boyd in Kingston). Coolsaet, Gillis, and Watson are coached by Dave Scott-Thomas.
egomaniac
RE: Simon Bairu sub-2:11 in Houston? 1/14/2012 3:18PM - in reply to livelikeaballer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I don't think Simon will do it, 2:11:31 is my prediction
vegan canuck
RE: Simon Bairu sub-2:11 in Houston? 1/15/2012 9:01AM - in reply to egomaniac Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

egomaniac wrote:

I don't think Simon will do it, 2:11:31 is my prediction


not even. He's slowed to mid 16s 5k splits @35k. Looks more like a 2:14ish time.
livelikeaballer
RE: Simon Bairu sub-2:11 in Houston? 1/15/2012 9:12AM - in reply to vegan canuck Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He's on 2:17:22 pace at 40k. Looks like he ran headlong into a wall.
Hiroshima
RE: Simon Bairu sub-2:11 in Houston? 1/15/2012 9:17AM - in reply to livelikeaballer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Bairu bombed hard! Hits the wall head first!

Coolsaet will be the one breaking the NR!
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