Pretty impressive for a 800/1500 specialist
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Pretty impressive for a 800/1500 specialist
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Impressive, but not too big a deal.
800/1500 types are built for speed, but most world class MD runners I would expect to be capable of a 1:20 half during base trainning. With that said, I am pretty sure this was just a fitness test for Morgan, if it had been a 5k or even a 10k, perhaps she would have focused more on time.
I doubt it was a "race" for her. A pretty good workout, and she was traveling with Amy Hastings from Mammoth
stuck in the middle(distances) wrote:
Pretty impressive for a 800/1500 specialist
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If you consider that impressive, I wonder how slow she'd have to run for it to be unimpressive. If that was an all-out race effort from Uceny, it would be shockingly slow. I'm sure it wasn't. She's not a world class 1/2 marathoner, but she wouldn't be a minute per mile slower than one either.
asdgfh wrote:
If you consider that impressive, I wonder how slow she'd have to run for it to be unimpressive. If that was an all-out race effort from Uceny, it would be shockingly slow. I'm sure it wasn't. She's not a world class 1/2 marathoner, but she wouldn't be a minute per mile slower than one either.
Are you kidding me? How many top female 1:58 800m runners do you think can run faster than 1:20 without special training? Certainly not Maggie Vessey or Alysia Montano. It shows pretty good fitness for an 800m runner to run a 1:20 half.
I don't know about Montano but Vessey was a 100m/200m runner in high school. She ran the 400m/800m at Cal Poly. So the fact she can't run 1:20 half marathon doesn't really prove anything.
Forgive my ignorance, but could somebody please explain the idea behind a mid distance athlete running a half marathon, even as a training run?
Perhaps Ms Uceny would be better spending some time teaching her other half how to finish a race
deserves it wrote:
Forgive my ignorance, but could somebody please explain the idea behind a mid distance athlete running a half marathon, even as a training run?
Perhaps Ms Uceny would be better spending some time teaching her other half how to finish a race
You're a moron and a troll.
Except that she is a 1500m runner (with good speed), or she would have run the 800m at Worlds (she didn't).
One presumes that this was a training run, not really a race, as well.
Steph Twell has run sub-1h12, granted she is more on the endurance side (58,2.02,4.02). So to say that 1h20 is fast, by any measure other than being a sprinter, is silly. What it means (unlike Twell for instance) is that Uceny is unlikely to move up to 5000m anytime soon (and rightfully so in her case). But it also shows that some endurance development (as opposed to just slow long runs) is useful for anyone trying to compete at longer than 800m (where anaerobic development is equally important).
wepmad wrote:
Are you kidding me? How many top female 1:58 800m runners do you think can run faster than 1:20 without special training? Certainly not Maggie Vessey or Alysia Montano. It shows pretty good fitness for an 800m runner to run a 1:20 half.
Not quite 1:58, but Nikki Hamblin ran 1:59.66 in September 2010, won the silver medals in both 800 and 1500 at the Delhi Commonwealth games in October 2010 and then runs a 1:16 half later in the same month, so probably not a lot of special training in those 2 weeks after Dehli.
So I'm thinking 1:20 is a training run for Uceny.
wepmad wrote:
asdgfh wrote:If you consider that impressive, I wonder how slow she'd have to run for it to be unimpressive. If that was an all-out race effort from Uceny, it would be shockingly slow. I'm sure it wasn't. She's not a world class 1/2 marathoner, but she wouldn't be a minute per mile slower than one either.
Are you kidding me? How many top female 1:58 800m runners do you think can run faster than 1:20 without special training? Certainly not Maggie Vessey or Alysia Montano. It shows pretty good fitness for an 800m runner to run a 1:20 half.
Interesting that you portray her as simply a 1:58 800 runner. Wouldn't the fact that she's a 4:00 1500 runner be more relevant to what she can run for a 1/2 marathon? I don't see Vessey or Montano running 4:00 anytime soon.
So to restate your question, how many top female 4:00 1500 runners can run faster than 1:20 without special training? I would say all of them.
she should be at least sub-1:15. i bet that 1:20 was a tempo run or a bad day
People....this was NOT a serious effort by Uceny and should not be evaluated at such. She drove Hastings to Vegas and get in a good workout. Period.
I checked the race results and Uceny wasn't listed as a finisher. I guess she ran the race without registering for it.
What part of
"ran the race as a training run"
do people here not understand?
It was just a training run. She can do it faster than that, if she wants to.
I'm closing in on 80 for the half, almost there. This means there's still hope for me to run sub-4 for 1500m.
low down dirty shame wrote:
she should be at least sub-1:15. i bet that 1:20 was a tempo run or a bad day
only 1:20 wow that sucks
coach d wrote:
What part of
"ran the race as a training run"
do people here not understand?
It was just a training run. She can do it faster than that, if she wants to.
+ 1
I find it impressive that a 1:58/4:00 runner can maintain 6 minute mile pace for a shade over 13 miles as a TRAINING run. Obviously, some people here do not find it all that impressive. I think it is but then I've never really thought about what a middle distance specialist could run for half marathon
As I recall, last year about this time, Bernard Lagat ran 14 miles in 1:15 (this is from memory, so the exact detail might be a little off) at about the start of the first of 2 10-week cycles.
I know that Terrence Mahon has gotten long tempos (who hasn't?) from Lagat, so this might have been a "bit" more than a training run. But Morgan is going to be a "marked man" next summer as the DL champion, and she has to be prepared for this. They know that if they let her get into sit-and-kick with them, they're dead, so it figures that some of the Africans are going to push the pace earlier. Makes perfect sense to me.
asdgfh wrote:
Interesting that you portray her as simply a 1:58 800 runner. Wouldn't the fact that she's a 4:00 1500 runner be more relevant to what she can run for a 1/2 marathon? I don't see Vessey or Montano running 4:00 anytime soon.
So to restate your question, how many top female 4:00 1500 runners can run faster than 1:20 without special training? I would say all of them.
Because it's obviously more rare for top female 800m runners to be able to run longer distances so well. I'm not surprised that she's able to do so, but that doesn't make it unimpressive.