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adddf
RE: DIII Indoor Track and Field 2011 11/28/2011 9:44PM - in reply to xcisover Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Tufts returns a full squad as well.
apwoeinae
RE: DIII Indoor Track and Field 2011 11/30/2011 11:07PM - in reply to Runforfun? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Runforfun? wrote:

With Spain gone, the 5k should be pretty tight and even deep and the 13 people at indoor nationals should really mke it a battle to even get there (which means entertaining last chance meets)... Any favorites or dark horses in the distance race?


Did you see the results of cross country nationals? Its most likely going to be a battle between Berube and Sathre again, with a big gap to everyone else. Kramer comes back and could potentially be up with those two, but I suspect not.

The DMR will be unpredictable as always, especially until you know who's doubling or not. Lots of guys returning though I think.

Scheetz should dominate the 800, and as was said before, the mile will likely be pretty up in the air.
stride
RE: DIII Indoor Track and Field 2011 12/1/2011 6:04PM - in reply to xcisover Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
wait turlip is back?
yeeep
RE: DIII Indoor Track and Field 2011 12/2/2011 10:52AM - in reply to apwoeinae Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Seems like the 800 is Sheetz to lose but i can see Messiah's Newhook in the mix FTW also.

mile indoors seems up in the air just with the field and who will be doubling back from the DMR. But if Haverford decides to double their guys (Milik, Arnold, Schoch who were all shoe in's for AA last year) it could be a lot of goats on the stand. Thought turlip graduated but may have a 5th year.

Kramer is a competitor but from what xc nats looked like Sathre and Berube will definitely be battling it out again.
dontforgetthateasily
RE: DIII Indoor Track and Field 2011 12/2/2011 12:57PM - in reply to apwoeinae Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Don't forget that Breitbach from Eau Claire is back for track. He was runner up in both the 10 and the 5 last year outdoors. He should not be underestimated.
RealTalk
RE: DIII Indoor Track and Field 2011 12/2/2011 1:17PM - in reply to dontforgetthateasily Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Breitbach is too soft to ever win anything. He didn't run in the WIAC conference outdoors meet to better help his own taper. Hopefully Sathre crushes that little pan$y.
Termination
RE: DIII Indoor Track and Field 2011 12/2/2011 1:49PM - in reply to yeeep Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I wouldn't be so sure about Sathre and Berube. Looking at last years 5k performance list, Berube isn't even top 5 returner and not sure why but Sathre didn't do track last year so that doesnt help much...

There is something to be said for guys who can perform on a cross country course (those 2 guys perhaps) and those guys that take it up a notch on the track. Look for those track performers to make it closer than you think.
uhoh
RE: DIII Indoor Track and Field 2011 12/2/2011 4:12PM - in reply to Termination Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/ee15638048dbd3bf8a89ce4b216af4a7/MEMO_2011_10_21_Indoor_OutdoorTF_Selections.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=ee15638048dbd3bf8a89ce4b216af4a7

I found this memo from the NCAA while trying to find the qualifying standards for the upcoming track season. Don't think many coaches are going to like the new rules for ties.
calvin234
RE: DIII Indoor Track and Field 2011 12/2/2011 6:07PM - in reply to uhoh Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Nick Kramer just dropped a bomb at Grand Valley State....holy shit...
robespierre
RE: DIII Indoor Track and Field 2011 12/2/2011 7:41PM - in reply to calvin234 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Nick Kramer ran that fast five K with the aid of his third leg. It's a man's world to quote James Brown, and Nick Kramer, you can tell by the way he uses his run he's a woman's man, no time to talk. To quote the Beegees. Peace.
robespierre
RE: DIII Indoor Track and Field 2011 12/2/2011 7:45PM - in reply to calvin234 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Nick Kramer ran that fast five K with the aid of his third leg. It's a man's world to quote James Brown, and Nick Kramer, you can tell by the way he uses his run he's a woman's man, no time to talk. To quote the Beegees. Peace.
NorthCentral
RE: DIII Indoor Track and Field 2011 12/2/2011 8:29PM - in reply to adddf Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yikes! What is the all time fastest D3 indoor 5k? Does Kramer have a shot at it? Apparently he has recovered from whatever his injury he had during the cross season.
panda bear
RE: DIII Indoor Track and Field 2011 12/2/2011 9:47PM - in reply to calvin234 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
berube ran a fast 5k in december last year and didn't come close to matching it the rest of the year. hammering a fast time 2 months before most times even touch the track doesn't mean anything. if he doesn't win something indoors, it was an error, to be honest
suspect
RE: DIII Indoor Track and Field 2011 12/3/2011 10:46AM - in reply to apwoeinae Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It seems as though you suspected wrong. Wonder how fast Kramer will go once he has done some speed work because this was most likely the opener off of what I can only imagine is a very large base. That kid works hard.
NorthCentral
RE: DIII Indoor Track and Field 2011 12/3/2011 1:20PM - in reply to suspect Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Going off of recent history, Calvin always seems to perform close to their fastest times of season at National. One exception would be Jed Christiansen's indoors race a couple years back, as I understand he was injured preceding nationals.
apwoeinae
RE: DIII Indoor Track and Field 2011 12/3/2011 3:18PM - in reply to Termination Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Termination wrote:

I wouldn't be so sure about Sathre and Berube. Looking at last years 5k performance list, Berube isn't even top 5 returner and not sure why but Sathre didn't do track last year so that doesnt help much...

There is something to be said for guys who can perform on a cross country course (those 2 guys perhaps) and those guys that take it up a notch on the track. Look for those track performers to make it closer than you think.


Ok first you're obviously looking at outdoor performance lists not indoor ones (when Sathre was injured), but that doesn't even matter that much, because Sathre and Berube showed they were a level above the rest of d3 in cross. That could change, but it will probably carry over to track, as both of those guys have performed at as high of a level in track as anyone else in d3 (Berube was 2nd in the indoor 5k two years ago, Sathre was 4th or 5th last year).

I did forget about Breitbach, who had an amazing nationals meet last spring with two second place finishes to Spain, so he could make things more interesting. It also immediately looks like Kramer is going to be a force to be reckoned with after running 14:07, though its confusing as to why he ran that race unattached (and therefore doesn't go on the performance lists i think). And if he was in that good shape so recently after xc nationals i dont really understand why he didn't compete in xc.

At any rate, if Berube, Sathre, Kramer and Breitbach all come to the line at indoor nationals in top shape, it could be one of the better (and faster) nationals races in d3 history.
letsgoits2012
RE: DIII Indoor Track and Field 2011 1/4/2012 8:19PM - in reply to apwoeinae Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
bump bump bump

Welcome to 2012, so what's going to happen in the world of D3 indoor track this year?

What are your picks?
johnny bravo
RE: DIII Indoor Track and Field 2011 1/7/2012 7:30PM - in reply to letsgoits2012 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Definitely that guy from Gwynedd-Mercy in the 800. He just slayed Alan Webb!!!!
Rund3
RE: DIII Indoor Track and Field 2011 1/12/2012 1:45PM - in reply to johnny bravo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You can also talk about all this stuff on your EXCLUSIVE DIII track and xc website, made ESPECIALLY for Division III XC/TF. You can also post photos.

www.rund3.net
Rund3
RE: DIII Indoor Track and Field 2011 1/12/2012 1:46PM - in reply to johnny bravo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You can also talk about all this stuff on your EXCLUSIVE DIII track and xc website, made ESPECIALLY for Division III XC/TF. You can also post photos.

http://www.rund3.net
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