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| Jamez Bond |
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The Lehigh guys have topped out at 80 mpw max. Good headroom to improve if they get it right without injuries. Navy always throws down a mighty squad. Bucknell wears the freshest pique polos so watch out for the Bison in the fall. |
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bucknell XC is full of art majors and schweens, they stand no chance against lehigh or navy |
| Bison Burger for Lunch |
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Can we get a verification on the date of the race? Trying to find a cheap flight up to the boonies. What airport makes the most sense to fly in to? Syracuse? Rochester? |
| Aeroplane |
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Just fly into Hamilton brah. |
| Cechmanek |
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You really have Mark Allen finishing well behind Dugan and McGowan? And Pope outside the top ten? With all of your emphasis on track times, maybe you should look at 5k/10k Pr's and rethink your list. Allen has run 14:22, and has shown that he is tough as nails when it counts. I do agree that Bucknell will be good, though. |
| bruce jenner |
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agreed, having Allen finishing all the way down at 8th is just ridiculous. he will be up there competing in the top 3. |
| Sweet Baby Ray |
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American will be hurt by the loss of Williams and Olsen, but they will have more guys step up, mark my words. Will Volkman of Lafayette? He's good. John Pope? Also good. Garcia of Bucknell looks good over longer distances. It will be interesting to see how Donner prepares his young team. Lehigh returns three rising Juniors at 14:25 and below, and don't look too bad behind that either. Navy looks good, but they will need more guys that are better over the 8k distance. Their milers are very fit, but a lot of the Navy guys mentioned earlier have not done much in a 5k, or have not cracked the top 35 at leagues. Maybe a comeback from CJ Elward and the rise of a few previously unknown freshmen will do them some good. For once, I do not think we can predict a clear favorite during the pre season, which makes discussion more interesting. |
| I Love You Chris |
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Chris Johnson will dump the clip on everyone at Patriots |
| Naval lint |
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Hebda could be good in XC. If he is back in the same shape as he was in HS he should be a 14:30 type of 5k guy. Which would help Navy out quite a bit. |
| HRE |
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It's on Oct. 27th and Syracuse is your best bet. |
| Vitamin E |
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Hebda could be good in XC. If he is back in the same shape as he was in HS he should be a 14:30 type of 5k guy. Which would help Navy out quite a bit.[/quote] Hebda could indeed be very good he certainly has the talent. His success in high school could either be a positive or a negative thing for him going forward mentally. The other Patriot League thread mentions Tyler Mueller's pork steeple: "Yes, nice packages all around. Tyler Mueller is ready to let the beast hang out of the bottom of his shorts." With this new success factor coming into play? Which Patriot league team seems to have the "total package"? |
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Hebda could be good in XC. If he is back in the same shape as he was in HS he should be a 14:30 type of 5k guy. Which would help Navy out quite a bit.[/quote] Hebda could indeed be very good he certainly has the talent. His success in high school could either be a positive or a negative thing for him going forward mentally. The other Patriot League thread mentions Tyler Mueller's pork steeple: "Yes, nice packages all around. Tyler Mueller is ready to let the beast hang out of the bottom of his shorts." With this new success factor coming into play? Which Patriot league team seems to have the "total package"?[/quote] CHRIS "JOHNSON"!!!!! ITS IN HIS NAME! |
| oh-reo |
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The ungodly performance of the distance squads like lafayette, colgate, and holy cross got me thinking. Does anyone have any info on the worst team in Patriot league xc history? Average time? Were they much worse than todays lesser teams? |
| bruce jenner |
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There is no way to accurately determine the worst team in Patriot League history by only taking average time into consideration. You cannot compare XC times like you can track times. Every course is different. Colgate's course is on a mountain, Lafayette's course is decently hilly, and Lehigh's course is, for the most part, a grass track. This is how I think the 3 courses stack up: Lehigh, Lafayette, Colgate (fastest to slowest) |
| Naval lint |
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You should probably include Bucknell on that list if you're putting Colgate on there. Bucknell has a lower average finish than Colgate the last couple of years. |
| bruce jenner |
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Worst teams of each year since 2005... 2005 (@Leh) Holy Cross 256 (27:09, 27:47, 27:52, 27:58, 28:08) Avg 27:47 2006 (@Col) Holy Cross 205 (27:47, 28:11, 28:45, 28:51, 28:58) Avg 28:31 2007 (@Laf) Holy Cross 221 (27:21, 27:57, 28:09, 29:04, 29:12) 2008 (@Leh) Lafayette 245 (26:11, 27:05, 27:22, 27:26, 27:34) Avg 27:07 2009 (@Col) Lafayette 251 (28:12, 29:41, 29:48, 29:51, 30:10) Avg 29:32 2010 (@Laf) Lafayette 246 (26:27, 27:27, 27:53, 28:27, 28:39) 2011 (@Leh) Holy Cross 215 (26:16, 26:23, 28:06, 28:11, 28:48) Avg 27:32 looking at this...it's pretty evident that Holy Cross and Lafayette have struggled the most. I would say that it is a toss up between the 2005 Holy Cross team or the 2009 Lafayette team |
| Gilly shat |
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Wow didnt realize how bad they were. |
| Patriot Fan, Patriot League |
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I imagine Navy is going to be formidable this year again. It's a shame we'll have to wait another year to see Boston join b/c they have a team this year that would be a in the hunt for the win if healthy. |
| Not Bruce Jenner |
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Holy Cross did pretty well last year... |
| How bout dem gals |
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How about a girls preview? Bucknell or Navy FTW? Bucknell girls had a good track season. They get pretty solid xc performance from their mid d girls. Colgate will be back in the middle of the pack again finally after losing Deroo and Burns. |