Mediocre HS runner wrote:
Can ANYONE do a sub 30 minute 10k with proper training?
No.
Most people would be lucky to break 40 regardless of who the coach is.
Mediocre HS runner wrote:
Can ANYONE do a sub 30 minute 10k with proper training?
No.
Most people would be lucky to break 40 regardless of who the coach is.
ANYONE as in your general public: No.
A High School runner with a 18.15 5km pb: Maybe
But it will take 10 years of 100+ miles each week.......And thats a deal breaker for 99% of the 18.15 guys out there
Never mind what other people think is possible, or rather never mind the people who tell you they think it is NOT possible. The fun part is finding out for yourself. As another poster mentioned it may take you until you are in at least your mid 20's to do it, but if it's important to you then keep pursuing it (just not at the cost of the rest of your life, e.g. work, relationships, family, etc.)
I never broke 10:20 for 3200 in high school, but I eventually broke 30 for 10k, so don't let your HS p.r.s get you down too much if they aren't super fast.
First of all it takes talent to be able to build up to running consistent weeks over 100 miles. But at 18 minutes right now and in high school I would make sure to put in a good winter base for outdoor and try to get as close as you can to 10 for 2miles.
To the OP: I was almost exactly where you are in HS. I ran 18:00 on a fast XC course as a junior - I didn't run senior year. I also ran 10:50 for 2 miles junior year track. Trained my arse off in my twenties. I had a few years north of 7000 miles. The result? 32:07 10k and 2:27 marathon.
Now, that said, I had chronic sciatica which, I think, prevented me from running faster. On the other hand, in order to attain my optimal fitness, I probably wrecked my untalented body.
So... I don't know if it's possible, but here's what I do know. In spite of the fact that I still have hip and back issues and some pain when I try to run too much (I'm in my mid-forties) I don't regret that time when I trained hard. At all. Go for it. Don't live an ordinary life. Pursue your passion. You might come up short of your goals. You might exceed them beyond your wildest dreams. But, either way, you'll have chosen a road less traveled. And that, I promise you, will make all the difference.
Hell no! Very few can break 35,40,45,50 or an hour in the 10K if they train their asses off! I am concerned about posts like yours. NO offense but noone is that uneducated about running in today's world of information.
But, fella, go out there and train and see how well you can do! You may surprise yourself and run 25:00!
If you're a senior in high school and are only running 18:15, you have no shot in hell unless your current training is god aweful. I doubt you'll ever have a shot at 15:00 for 5k. Sorry to break the news to you, but that's reality.
Don't worry about it though. Run and train well and enjoy it and focus on getting better. Don't worry about "will I ever run xx:xx some day?"
sorrykiddo hit the nail on the freakin' head, but I doubt if you even care! Poser post!!
How can I break 9 seconds in the 100 meter dash and still stay 100 pounds overweight? Sorry, but that is the way I view those OP's. "Can I have sex before marriage if I am a Christian?" "Can I play with myself and not feel guilty about it since I used to have a girl friend?"
Get the drift??!
I remember telling a teacher in high school I wanted to try and run 5:30 pace for 5 miles and that is what it took to run at the collegiate level. That was because I was running 16:30 (5:30 pace) in high school.
I ended up running 4:30 for 10k but the point is you don't know how much talent you have until you try.
IMPOSSIBLE IS NOTHING.
but don't get to ahead of yourself
Anyone can do it. Just trust the drugs.
shoe guy wrote:
Start by putting in the 100+ mile weeks first, then observe your improvement. It is impossible to predict unless you try and see for yourself. Some people respond to high mileage very well and improve tremendously from high school, while others kind of plateau somewhere at a certain point.
Lenny Korir did run a 33 min 10k his first year at Iona and then came back a year later to run 27:29 and win NCAA's. Wejo also improved from a 30 min 10k guy in college to a 28 min 10k guy post college.
One of the reasons why most people can´t run 30 min for 10k is that most people can´t handle 100mpw, no matter how hard they try.
You are 17 so I believe you have a lot of room to improve. Look at Benard Lagat, he is still improving at about 40s. So if you keep working, the numbers might come. But you need to focus on bringing your 5k to lower 15 minutes zone as a start.
The sooner you get to 15 minutes zone the better. 18 or 17 minutes zone is too far from your dream.
Get advice on how to get there first.
PS: Not everyone can run under 30 minutes 10k, remember that, but believe in yourself and you might be one of the exceptional.
well. wrote:
One of the reasons why most people can´t run 30 min for 10k is that most people can´t handle 100mpw, no matter how hard they try.
This.
Sometimes it's not lack of effort or application, but some people's bodies just can't cope with the required training year-in, year-out. But you don't know until you try...
'Most people would be lucky to break 40 regardless of who the coach is.'
I don't agree with that if you are young and male and the coach is irrelevant its what training they are doing
Check out most guys running over 40 mins for 10km in a road race, most of them are only training 3 x per week
If you put them on proper training for a couple of years they could go under 40 mins
30 is a different matter as most people just don't have the speed for it and if you are slow you would be lucky to have the phenominal endurance required
For most people I don't think setting goals too far ahead is a good idea, better to set interim goals that are achievable. Does not mean you still cannot dream of being great though
Interesting question I started running when I was about 21 with an 18.10 all be it on a hilly course probably worth 20 seconds to a flat course. I never thought I would get anywhere near sub 30 but to date I have run 14.20 for 5k and a 30.30 10k, 5 years down the line. That was with a lot of hard work and it did not come straight way to knock out those times. What I’m saying is if you’re motivated to do it just set year goals and see where it takes you.
Just a note I never went anywhere near 100 miles a week
Don't listen to this guy. I left high school with a 19:15 PR. It's been 2 1/2 years since then, only one of which was hard training and I just ran 1:10 in the half-marathon.
Get out , train hard and you'll surprise yourself
It might not be possible but you might as well try. I have a close friend who was barely sub 11 in the 2 mile in high school and now has ran sub 30:30. Although the kid may have been a 4:35 miler in high school.......and now runs 120 mile weeks like its nothing. But might as well try
Okay a 18 min 5k is just around 5 47 pace. A 15 min 5k is about 4:49 pace. Now lets get down to it, you would have to be a low to mid 14 min runner to even have a chance at running 30mins. A few exceptions will lay outside of that as some people are better suited for a 10k so it may not require a 5k well under 15. So lets say 14:30 which is a 4:40 per mile effort. That is currently a minute and 7 seconds faster for 3.1 miles than 18 min pace. Seriously look at these numbers then 30 minutes becomes less of a pleasant number and more of a very difficult challenge. It is also important to remember that you might not really be a good longer distance runner or maybe you are. I would go race a 10k and get an idea of how difficult a race it can be before setting your eyes on that distance. Why not shoot for a 15 min 5k or a fast mile time. Don't limit yourself to a specific event but do find a race distance you would be willing to work hard at. I would be nice to know what your two mile track time is. Good luck it is going to be very very hard.
I'm in your shoes, kinda.
My HS 5k pr was 18:24.
I did the 100+ mile week thing for 4 years at college and left with a 31:01 pr. Sub 30 though? I dunno. I know a lot of really really good people that train extremely hard, and extremely smart, and can't get past the low 30's to save their lives.