When the heck is someone going to break the 1500m or mile WR...

I don't know.

When do you think Mudd will be ready to break it?

It will be a while, I'm afraid. Regardless of WHY, no one is on the same level as El Guerrouj. The new WR holder at 1500m is probably alive right now, but also probably hasn't even started secondary school. For a while I thought Alan Webb could threaten the mile WR (which is slightly weaker than the 1500m WR) but he's lost so much time over the past few years that I don't think he has enough time. He might be able to return to his previous form and run 3:30, but the three or four years' worth of lost development have all but eliminated his potential for threatening 3:43.13

I have asked this question myself and to be honest no one in the world has gone under 3:45 in the mile for quite some time now. I mean to break 3:30 in the 1500 seemed to be common for El G and Lagat but now breaking 3:30 seems almost magical by todays standards. I just dont ever see the Mile record being broken for another 5-10 years.

When Webb says, that's when.

Didn't you hear? Alan Webb is a little bit too busy setting World Records from 3000m-Marathon to get the 1500m record, but clearly if Webb decided to run a 1500m he could easily get under 3:20, no problem. He could also run 3:38 for the mile. Webb could easily get the wr from 60 meters to marathon if he wanted to. WEBB IS THE KING

Its a testament to the greatness of El G. Global miling has had no dominant figure since he retired, much less one capable of approaching his WR. In the past four WC/OG only Lagat and Kiprop have won more than one medal.

I think it would be broken within 2-3 years if some corporation put up a million dollar reward for it. As it stands now, the money is in marathoning and the worlds best talent will chase the money. No one is going to put in the years of work to do this just for the glory of setting the record. It wouldn't even make the back page of the sports section in most papers around the world.

When they have a new undetectable EPO replacement that is just as effective?

It's always unlikely, but some 21 year old could come up at any time and break it. One year it will be safe, and the next it will be gone. El G was the king tho.

M.C. Confusing wrote:

When they have a new undetectable EPO replacement that is just as effective?

Correcto!

WHEN THE BEST RUNNERS TAKE THE SAME SUPPLEMENTS AS AOUTA, MORCELLI, ELG, BEKELE, KOMEN AND GEBRESELASSE.

THAT IS WHEN.

The mile/1500 meters went through a restructuring period during the Coe-Ovett-Yates-Aouita-Morcelli, El-G period. It was exciting times but I am glad a bit of stagnation has kicked in. It got to be a little boring at times as a tenth or two were taken off each week. A bit technical at times especially during the Morcelli period when pacers (his brother and shabunin) were in the exact same position week after week. A new Champion will emerge, just wait.

More compelling is the womens record book. Ladies 100, 200, 400 and 800 are due for a major reworking. Womens 10,000 is up for a change as well. I have seen video of all the records except the womens 10,000. I got some media contacts but getting Chinese National Champs from 1993 has thus far been impossible.

2 years ago I thought Kiprop would be able to make a good run at it. He is far and away the most talented runner since El G. However, it seems that since his sudden stardom, he has lost a bit of the fire that it would take to break the WR. Once I read that story about him getting kicked out of training camp for having girls over or whatever it was, I knew we would have to wait for the next great miler to make a run at El G's times.

When Rudisha moves up to the 1500m.

Silas Kiplagat ran 3:29 in his Int'l debut (#10 AT) but a year later has not touched that. What is up with him?

Possible, although I heard that after Wariner takes down the US and World records at 800m he'll move up to target the same at 1500/mile. Pretty simple reasoning--anyone with such speed at a shorter distance can easily break the record at a longer one...

bluemt95 wrote:

When Rudisha moves up to the 1500m.

Kaki would seem to be someone who could *potentially* take a shot a sub 3:29 (lets not get too greedy off the bat). He's got 1:42 800m speed (runs 1:42-1:43 consistently), and has already run 3:31 for 1500m this year. Who knows what he *could* run next year if he focus's on the 1500.

Hate to agree, but every distance track race from 1500-10000 are probably tainted. And the Women's 10K. Come on! Does ANYONE believe that was legitimate?Currently, there is a drug being used in the marathon that has not yet been detected. When it is, sub 2:06 will again be an extremely rare event just as sub 3:30, sub 12:50, etc are now.

bootydaddy wrote:

M.C. Confusing wrote:

When they have a new undetectable EPO replacement that is just as effective?

Correcto!

When Centro tries to break it