Very good read letsrun.
Does anybody know more about Galen's training. I mean, obviously, he runs 110 to 120 and has a rabbit for every workout as mentioned in the interview.
But does he do single or doubles?
How long is his long run?
How often does he do intervals?
I would seriously pay for this information.
He also hopes to work on "shorter interval" runs where he's featuring a "50-second pace" for specific periods.
http://www.oregonlive.com/trackandfield/index.ssf/2011/09/us_record_holder_galen_rupp_to.html
Rec Runner x wrote:
Very good read letsrun.
Does anybody know more about Galen's training. I mean, obviously, he runs 110 to 120 and has a rabbit for every workout as mentioned in the interview.
But does he do single or doubles?
How long is his long run?
How often does he do intervals?
I would seriously pay for this information.
I also just saw one of his tweets where he was hitting the weight room last summer. Any info on that?
Agreed. I'm also curious how the hydroworx training works in.
Rec Runner x wrote:
Very good read letsrun.
Does anybody know more about Galen's training. I mean, obviously, he runs 110 to 120 and has a rabbit for every workout as mentioned in the interview.
But does he do single or doubles?
How long is his long run?
How often does he do intervals?
I would seriously pay for this information.
Why is that important to you? I hope you're not thinking of tuning your car like formula 1 tunes theirs.
I would be happy if they just used the word "strength" correctly so we could understand what the hell they mean.
Good article. Absolutely brutal pace with a 4:05 first mile - must have been immense pain at the end.
turkey leg wrote:
Rec Runner x wrote:Very good read letsrun.
Does anybody know more about Galen's training. I mean, obviously, he runs 110 to 120 and has a rabbit for every workout as mentioned in the interview.
But does he do single or doubles?
How long is his long run?
How often does he do intervals?
I would seriously pay for this information.
Why is that important to you? I hope you're not thinking of tuning your car like formula 1 tunes theirs.
I would be happy if they just used the word "strength" correctly so we could understand what the hell they mean.
Why is that important to you? I hope you're not thinking of tuning your truck like semi drivers tune theirs.
I feel like that car tuning analogy is stupid. It's not like I want to improve the performance of my car. It gets me from point A to point B.
You are so unbelievably stupid like my wife. Obviously I would like my car to have the same treatment as the best to optimize performance even if it is a little rusty.
whatever, bolt could break 2 for an 800. i will bet my house on that.
I predict this whole tuning thing becoming a meme on this site
Rec Runner x wrote:
You are so unbelievably stupid like my wife. Obviously I would like my car to have the same treatment as the best to optimize performance even if it is a little rusty.
Really? You really assume that what's good for Rupp is good for you? Cooklie-cutter training is not the answer and if it works for you, you are just lucky.
bangalangadanga wrote:
whatever, bolt could break 2 for an 800. i will bet my house on that.
So what? Loads of people can do that. World class is a lot faster...
turkey leg wrote:
Rec Runner x wrote:You are so unbelievably stupid like my wife. Obviously I would like my car to have the same treatment as the best to optimize performance even if it is a little rusty.
Really? You really assume that what's good for Rupp is good for you? Cooklie-cutter training is not the answer and if it works for you, you are just lucky.
A good training program or even better, a training theory, can work for a LOT of people. There really isn't that many different ways to train. I doubt that anyone on this board is going to go out and try to match Galen's workouts day in and day out. But if you are a student of the sport, AT ALL, you would be curious about how the professionals train. That is why Coach Canova gets such respect from posters when he provides training details on his elites. That is why posters like to ask questions of Malmo, Hadd, Cabral, The Hansons etc...
It really isn't that hard of a concept.
One tidbit that we know for sure about AlSal's athletes is that early season (indoor) they run a tempo or 10K-pace repeats shortly after a hard race, which is usually underdistance (800-3000). I doubt that Rupp did this in Daegu. So in early season he is immediately balancing out the anaerobic demands of early racing with some strength work. This is likely in the context of the 100+ miles/week training mentioned in the interview.
joho wrote:
turkey leg wrote:Really? You really assume that what's good for Rupp is good for you? Cooklie-cutter training is not the answer and if it works for you, you are just lucky.
A good training program or even better, a training theory, can work for a LOT of people. There really isn't that many different ways to train. I doubt that anyone on this board is going to go out and try to match Galen's workouts day in and day out. But if you are a student of the sport, AT ALL, you would be curious about how the professionals train. That is why Coach Canova gets such respect from posters when he provides training details on his elites. That is why posters like to ask questions of Malmo, Hadd, Cabral, The Hansons etc...
It really isn't that hard of a concept.
I completely agree in what you say. Learning different APPROACHES of training is very good. I've personally gained a lot from studying Renato's posts of his theory. Training logs of a few weeks, on the other hand, are not valuable because there is no context to go along. And still, you can't tell what the purpose of each day's training was.
The questions that Rec Runner x asks are not of the approach, they are too particular and subject to too many misunderstandings without the right context:
But does he do single or doubles?
How long is his long run?
How often does he do intervals?
Just to play devil's advocate...
AlSal 100% believes in cookie cutter. He is the epitome of it. He has been quoted as saying there is one way to run perfectly. There is one way that is most efficient. There is one specific way where the feet should be placed, the arm carriage held, etc.
I think we can all deduce that Mo "slotted" into AlSals training. Its not like AlSal took Mo's individual gifts and is having him do something very different then Galen, who may have different gifts.
No, Mo just started doing AlSal's cookie cutter approach. Maybe less volume, but that was just so he didn't hurt Mo. The approach was the same. AlSal has even stated that he can't wait until next year when he has Mo doing more of what Galen was doing. Talk about cookie cutter!
However, does anyone really think, generally speaking, that training needs to be radically different athlete to athlete? Run some stuff at faster then race pace, some stuff at race pace, some stuff slower. Listen to your body. Address needs as you feel they need addressing. Run as much mileage as possible without getting injured or making yourself so tired you can't run quality workouts. Don't race your workouts and have belief in your coach.
Is that approach cookie cutter? Some may say yes, some may so no. Sounds pretty cookie cutter to me, though.