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Jeffster!!!!!
RE: Chicago marathon Elite Development 9/6/2011 10:43AM - in reply to lease Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Here is a recent article on the trio from Running Times magazine. http://runningtimes.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=23304



lease wrote:

Mr. Pinkowski is one-third of the answer to one of the great track and field trivia questions.
random a hole
RE: Chicago marathon Elite Development 9/6/2011 10:44AM - in reply to lol@tards.. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

lol@tards.. wrote:


Carey Pinkowski wrote:
To avoid any confusion, I'm not actually the marathon race director. I just picked his name to post this which I found on my own.


Yeah, don't do that.


Because you might confuse this one slow person.
Carey Pinkowski
RE: Chicago marathon Elite Development 9/6/2011 11:02AM - in reply to Baltic Babe Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Baltic Babe wrote:

Where are the women???


I don't care enough about the womens' field to get their list. If you do, you can go through the marathon website. One way is to check registration and leave the fields blank except for sex, then sort by corral.
Seymour G.
RE: Chicago marathon Elite Development 9/6/2011 12:07PM - in reply to Carey Pinkowski Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I had some time on my hands so i got the Women's Elite Development list in order. In order to get everything orderly I had to abbreviate some of the longer information and I did not include any charities that are being run for by some people. I imagine anyone interested in looking at these lists are putting in some solid training, so good luck with everything the next 5 weeks.

Elite Development Women:

42335327 Martha Roncer?a Rey F 30 Bogot? COL COL ELITE DEV
42791042 Heather Swink F 38 Barrington IL USA ELITE DEV
42788686 Heather Prekop F 29 Chicago IL USA ELITE DEV
42796015 Christina Overbeck F 25 Portland OR USA ELITE DEV
20110659 Sharon Lemberger F 38 Stamford CT USA ELITE DEV
42676649 Maria De Peralta F 33 Mar Del Plata YES ARG ELITE DEV
20110641 Lanni Marchant F 27 Chattanooga TN USA ELITE DEV
20110642 Erin O'Mara F 27 Ypsilanti MI USA ELITE DEV
20110643 Suzy Schumacher F 42 Phoenix AZ USA ELITE DEV
20110644 Jodi Suter F 39 Spokane WA USA ELITE DEV
20110645 Jacklyn Rzepecki F 32 Lake Orion MI USA ELITE DEV
20110646 Becca Prichard F 32 Boulder CO USA ELITE DEV
20110647 Emily Bates F 35 Salt Lake City UT USA ELITE DEV
20110649 Carrie Seiberlich F 39 Kenosha WI USA ELITE DEV
20110650 Kayte Tranel F 28 Lincoln NE USA ELITE DEV
20110593 Erica Viger F 33 Boulder CO USA ELITE DEV
20110594 Amanda McCracken F 33 Boulder CO USA ELITE DEV
20110595 Andrea Viger F 33 Boulder CO USA ELITE DEV
20110596 Deanna Ardrey F 28 Boulder CO USA ELITE DEV
20110598 Adrian Chouinard F 28 Manitou Spr. CO USA ELITE DEV
20110599 Susan Empey F43 Mercer Island WA USA ELITE DEV
20110600 Alexandra Blake F28 Tucson AZ USA ELITE DEV
20110601 Polly Campbell F 44 Tucson AZ USA ELITE DEV
20110602 Aileen Hoak F 28 Buffalo NY USA ELITE DEV
20110603 Melissa Begin F35 Nashville TN USA ELITE DEV
20110604 Danya Crawford F 31 Midway UT USA ELITE DEV
20110605 Kate DeProsperis F 32 Downers Gro. IL USA ELITE DEV
20110342 Lindsay Wilkins F33 Arlington VA USA ELITE DEV
20110343 Nathalie Goyer F43 Saint-Bruno QUE CAN ELITE DEV
20110261 Jeannette Faber F29 Portland OR USA ELITE DEV
20110262 Thea Fleming F 28 Minneapolis MN USA ELITE DEV
20110263 Susannah Kvasnicka F 39 Great Falls VA USA ELITE DEV
20110234 Teal Connor F 26 Washington DC USA ELITE DEV
20110235 Sarah Biss F34 Rotorua NZL ELITE DEV
20110236Brigid Moriarty F25 Mount Herm. MA USA ELITE DEV
20110241 Claire Hallissey F 28 Arlington VA GBR ELITE DEV
20110226 Stacie Alboucrek F 44 Fort Laud. FL USA ELITE DEV
20110227 Lucie Mays Sul. F 41 Westfield IN USA ELITE DEV
20110289 Suzanne Larsen F 34 Fenton MI USA ELITE DEV
20110293 Theresa Lowry F 37 San Diego CA USA ELITE DEV
20110294 Bridget Montgomery F 31 Chicago IL USA ELITE DEV
20110295 Kelsey Jones F 30 Denver CO USA ELITE DEV
20110297 Sarah Breevoort F 25 Charlottesville VA USA ELITE DEV
20110301 Katherine Hails F 23 Somerville MA USA ELITE DEV
20110302 Lauren Matthews F 31 Seattle WA USA ELITE DEV
20110140 Carin Tepovich F 30 Virginia B. VA USA ELITE DEV
20110271 Abbey Kaknes F 27 Burlington VT USA ELITE DEV
20110280 Heather Backer F 37 Crestview H. KY USA ELITE DEV
20110306 Nora Colligan F 29 Austin TX USA ELITE DEV
20110315 Melissa Raddatz F 34 New York NY USA ELITE DEV
20110316 Kelly Willis F 43 Brussels USA ELITE DEV
20110317 Julie Leasure F 40 Portland OR USA ELITE DEV
20110319 Colleen Little F 28 Portland OR USA ELITE DEV
20110321 Jackie Dikos F 32 Indianapolis IN USA ELITE DEV
20110322 Laura Farley F 27 Indianapolis IN USA ELITE DEV
20110336 Kristen Lawrence F 31 Virginia Beach VA USA ELITE DEV
20110338 Nora Colligan F 29 Austin TX USA ELITE DEV
20110339 Jackie Pirtle-Hall F 29 St Charles MO USA ELITE DEV
20110512 Hannah Norton F 29 Union City MI USA ELITE DEV
20110513 Helen Rarick F 31 Beaverton OR USA ELITE DEV
20110514 Katarina Janosikova F 31 Astoria NY SVK ELITE DEV
20110516 Andrea Garvue F 27 Seattle WA USA ELITE DEV
20110517 Katie Howery F 25 Verona WI USA ELITE DEV
20110519 Heidy Lozano F 48 Houston TX USA ELITE DEV
20110520 Carly Shea F 33 Cambridge MA USA ELITE DEV
20110525 Jessica Langford F 40 Rockford IL USA ELITE DEV
20110526 Kailin Collins F 24 Boston MA USA ELITE DEV
20110527 Jane LeBlond F36 Fairbanks Alaska USA ELITE DEV
20110528 Allison Krausen F 31 Edwards CO USA ELITE DEV
20110546 Jessica Snyder F 27 Rochester NY USA ELITE DEV
20110547 Amanda Scott F 23 Boulder CO USA ELITE DEV
20110548 Diana Hirst F 37 Houston TX USA ELITE DEV
20110549 Jane Cullis F 26 Toronto Ontario CAN ELITE DEV
20110550 Jean Marinangeli F 27 Schaumburg IL USA ELITE DEV
20110551 Veronica Clemens F 30 New York NY USA ELITE DEV
20110552 Angela Sandy F 34 Alamosa CO USA ELITE DEV
20110553 Lydia Carrick F 26 Greenville DE USA ELITE DEV
20110554 Nicole Cueno F 31 Minneapolis MN USA ELITE DEV
20110576 Katrhleen Jobes F 41 Bethlehem PA USA ELITE DEV
20110577 Casey Owens F 29 Des Moines IA USA ELITE DEV
20110580 Jen Nicholson F 42 Cornwall PEI CAN ELITE DEV
20110346 Christie Foster F 23 Colorado Sp. CO USA ELITE DEV
20110347 Megan Johnson F 29 Seattle WA USA ELITE DEV
20110350 Colleen Little F 28 Portland OR USA ELITE DEV
20110212 Wenche Kvaeven F 46 Tjorhom NOR ELITE DEV
20110201 Angie Turner F 42 Hallsville MO USA ELITE DEV
20110204 Andi Camp F 37 Portland OR USA ELITE DEV
20110168 Laura Gaughan F 37 Thornton PA USA ELITE DEV
20110170 Meredith Lambert F 28 Ardmore PA USA ELITE DEV
20110175 Elyse Shimada F 23 Cypress CA USA ELITE DEV
20110151 Liz Gottlieb F 36 San Rafael CA USA ELITE DEV
20110152 Kara Waters F 36 Ellicott City MO USA ELITE DEV
20110153 Antoinette Minniti F 39 Nottingham GBR ELITE DEV
20110085 McKale Davis F 27 Stillwater OK USA ELITE DEV
39065265 Angelina Anliker F 31 Chicago IL USA ELITE DEV
39065415 Tammy Lifka F 41 Glen Ellyn IL USA ELITE DEV
39069476 Amy Doolittle C. F 31 Louisville KY USA ELITE DEV
39069704 Sarah Darvill F 26 Atlanta GA USA ELITE DEV
39069690 Nicole Falvo F 36 Grand Blanc MI USA ELITE DEV
39069543 Alice Rogers F 33 Charlotte NC USA ELITE DEV
39070251 Julie Wankowski F 41 Glen Ellyn IL USA ELITE DEV
39070170 Amy Haney F 38 Libertyville IL USA ELITE DEV
39070977 Susan Wiora F 49 Hickory Hills IL USA ELITE DEV
39070966 Madeleine Zolfo F 46 Treasure Is. FL USA ELITE DEV
39070860 Elizabeth Maus F 27 Westerville OH USA ELITE DEV
39072701 Catherine Spiess F 39 New Albany OH USA ELITE DEV
39073375 Jacqui Aubert F 25 Crystal Lake IL USA ELITE DEV
39073807 Jill Czarnik F 23 Chicago IL USA ELITE DEV
39075176 Jenna Mitchler F 28 Coon Rapids MN USA ELITE DEV
39075064 Janine Peart F 42 Jupiter FL USA ELITE DEV
39077210 Elizabeth Jones F 29 Marquette MI USA ELITE DEV
39076692 Brennan Liming F 35 Apex NC USA ELITE DEV
39075845 Carolyn Knapp F 27 Chicago IL USA ELITE DEV
39077618 Meg Sullivan F 32 Downers Gro. IL USA ELITE DEV
39078218 Gina Aalgaard K. F 35 Lisbon ND USA ELITE DEV
39078285 Christine Digiovanni F 47 Toronto ON CAN ELITE DEV
39079841 Christy Peterson F 36 Doylestown PA USA ELITE DEV
39079747 Kylee Schuler F 25 Broomfield CO USA ELITE DEV
39080196 Tracey Mcgarry F 30 Chicago IL USA ELITE DEV
39080650 Nicole Vander Wiele F 29 Lynden WA USA ELITE DEV
39081323 Paige Biglin F 28 Columbus OH USA ELITE DEV
39082365 Suzanne Ryan F 37 West Chicago IL USA ELITE DEV
39082471 Samantha Kirkham Iteld F 36 Hinsdale IL USA ELITE DEV
39082641 Monica Joyce F 53 Plymouth MI USA ELITE DEV
39087120 Alissa Bugh F 26 Wheaton IL USA ELITE DEV
39086505 Jennifer Jorvig F 27 Charlottesville VA USA ELITE DEV
39087995 Lynde Johnson F 33 Portland OR USA ELITE DEV
39088870 Victoria Russell F 39 Spokane WA USA ELITE DEV
39092057 Erica Braswell F 31 Birmingham AL USA ELITE DEV
39090618 Laura Bryan F 34 Bridgetown BAR BAR ELITE DEV
39090740 Cari Smith F 37 Golden CO USA ELITE DEV
39094761 Emily Kroshus F 28 Boston MA USA ELITE DEV
39095287 Emily Hardin F 28 Huntsville AL USA ELITE DEV
39093901 Varia Lvova F 34 Arlington VA USA ELITE DEV
39092997 Karen Simmonds B. F 37 Auburn NY USA ELITE DEV
39092706 Heather Schulz F 37 Orlando FL USA ELITE DEV
39105355 Loryn Kromrey F 27 Oak Park IL USA ELITE DEV
39104509 Shannon Javaras F 36 Palos Park IL USA ELITE DEV
39102059 LJ Egbert F 46 Phoenix AZ USA ELITE DEV
39107881 Elizabeth Turner F 27 Albuqeurque NM USA ELITE DEV
39111099 Janet Whittaker F 37 Washington DC GBR ELITE DEV
39111984 Asia Shah F 23 Austin TX USA ELITE DEV
39115129 Amber Morrison F 30 Bellingham WA USA ELITE DEV
39118884 Kathryn Neeper F 27 Washington DC USA ELITE DEV
39125970 Maria Clara Castro F 37 Nova Lima MIN BRA ELITE DEV
39132282 Catherine Watkins F 40 Vancouver BC CAN ELITE DEV
39137427 Amy Castro F 36 Boulder CO USA ELITE DEV
39133752 Shannon Brady F 31 Chicago IL USA ELITE DEV
39138915 Katherine Cimonetti F 36 Bayville NY USA ELITE DEV
39150605 Heather Himler F 36 Savage MN USA ELITE DEV
39158221 Molly Giammarco F 28 Washington DC USA ELITE DEV
39152191 Jennifer Sagat F 29 Chicago IL USA ELITE DEV
39162916 Heidi Evans F 26 Roseau MN USA ELITE DEV
39162318 Jacquelyne Gallegos F 28 Albuquerque NM USA ELITE DEV
39158071 Allison Harris F 42 Northbrook IL USA ELITE DEV
39160154 Micaela Mcmurrough F 35 New York NY USA ELITE DEV
39171062 Ashley Boyle F 29 Portland OR USA ELITE DEV
39167419 Annie Baltes WytockF 25 Evanston IL USA ELITE DEV
39195760 Holly Fredericksen F 23 Poquoson VA USA ELITE DEV
39191902 Brittany Brenny F 25 Staples MN USA ELITE DEV
39219305 Andrea Palmer F 30 Danville IL USA ELITE DEV
39213877 Jennifer Modliszewski F 31 Durham NC USA ELITE DEV
39228965 Rachel Jaten F 36 Spokane WA USA ELITE DEV
39341406 Suzi Harvey F 49 Sparks NV GBR ELITE DEV
39368143 Lauren Uhler F 31 New York NY USA ELITE DEV
39358472 Christina Fiduccia F 25 Chicago IL USA ELITE DEV
39373745 Mariko Holbrook F 30 Somerville MA USA ELITE DEV
39421846 Jennifer Theissen F 28 Kent OH USA ELITE DEV
39492818 Amanda Brewster F 30 Cambridge MA USA ELITE DEV
39515176 Laurie Knowles F 33 Atlanta GA USA ELITE DEV
39544047 Sarah Bard F 27 Leesburg VA USA ELITE DEV
39615272 Yvonne Ou F 35 San Francisco CA USA ELITE DEV
39623215 Clare Kazmierczak F 35 Moorhead MN USA ELITE DEV
39613541 Danielle Deines F 29 Arden NC USA ELITE DEV
39563452 Chelsea Vandebrake F 23 Yakima WA USA ELITE DEV
39681034 Sarah Grzybek F 31 Tinley Park IL USA ELITE DEV
39639186 Becca Thompson F 30 Houston TX USA ELITE DEV
39661763 Regina Topf F 28 Chicago IL USA ELITE DEV
39695905 Rosibel Aguilar F 33 Doral FL CRC ELITE DEV
39701001 Kelly Dagger F 26 Berkeley CA USA ELITE DEV
39719204 Maria Cicero F 28 Elmhurst IL USA ELITE DEV
39727147 Betsy Mccabe F 33 Schererville IN USA ELITE DEV
39734916 Lisa Thomas F 35 Alexandria VA USA ELITE DEV
39739124 Margaret Nolan F 28 Chicago IL USA ELITE DEV
39760195 Jackie Baumgartner F 28 Norwalk CT USA ELITE DEV
39768171 Columba Montes F 32 Chicago IL Elite DEV
suspect
RE: Chicago marathon Elite Development 9/6/2011 1:00PM - in reply to Barking Spider Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The cut-off for masters is obviously not 1:11 or 2:31. That, or people are lying (as if anyone would do that, but just pretend).

For example, this guy has run no better than 2:49+ and 1:15+.

http://www.athlinks.com/myresults.aspx?rid=76174225[/quote]


Looks like he ran a sub 2:40 marathon at Chicago in 2009. Must have been having a really good day.
douglas burke
RE: Chicago marathon Elite Development 9/6/2011 1:02PM - in reply to suspect Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
also liliya shobukhova is running the womens race
missing the point
RE: Chicago marathon Elite Development 9/6/2011 1:07PM - in reply to douglas burke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

douglas burke wrote:

a 42 year old man ran a 2:10.50 for 3rd in the gold coast marathon on july 3rd 2011 in australia. the same runner had run 2:07.09 in 1999, we have a 46 year old who has qualified for the olympic trials, record for over 40 is 2:08.46
there are very good runners over 40.


And how many 40 year old 2:25 - 2:30 guys later developed into 2:12 guys?
missing the point
RE: Chicago marathon Elite Development 9/6/2011 1:08PM - in reply to random a hole Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

random a hole wrote:


lol@tards.. wrote:


Carey Pinkowski wrote:
To avoid any confusion, I'm not actually the marathon race director. I just picked his name to post this which I found on my own.


Yeah, don't do that.


Because you might confuse this one slow person.


No, because sometimes the big names in running actually DO post here.
random a hole
RE: Chicago marathon Elite Development 9/6/2011 1:30PM - in reply to missing the point Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

missing the point wrote:

Because you might confuse this one slow person.


No, because sometimes the big names in running actually DO post here.[/quote]

Valid point. But do you think that somebody who had the necessary communication skills to rise to a position such as his would just post some cut/paste without any explanation of what/why he was posting?
missing the point
RE: Chicago marathon Elite Development 9/6/2011 1:47PM - in reply to random a hole Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Actually yes I do. Because quite often, they actually would. It happens. Whatever the reach of this forum, it's viewed as a fairly informal place to get a message across, not a PR firm. The very fact that the guy felt compelled to clarify he was NOT Pinkowski speaks to that.

Still that's all probably beside the point. It probably shouldn't be the sort of thing one has to reason out. Internet posts are forever.
Barking Spider
RE: Chicago marathon Elite Development 9/6/2011 2:02PM - in reply to suspect Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

suspect wrote:


Looks like he ran a sub 2:40 marathon at Chicago in 2009. Must have been having a really good day.


You are right, and I suck. Still, that's a far cry from 2:31. And I picked that dude at random -- I imagine I'd see similar results if I looked at the other geezers on the list.
pablo
RE: Chicago marathon Elite Development 9/9/2011 9:00AM - in reply to Barking Spider Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Barking Spider wrote:
You are right, and I suck. Still, that's a far cry from 2:31. And I picked that dude at random -- I imagine I'd see similar results if I looked at the other geezers on the list.


It's not just the geezers, I know of AT LEAST 3 other guys on that list who have not gotten the sub-1:11 or sub-2:31 that is supposedly required for admission into that corral.

It doesn't really make me angry, but why even have the time standards if you're not going to stand by them? Some of the guys on that list are going to run 2:40+, putting them in the A corral is NOT going to have any affect on their finishing time.
runnerrennur
RE: Chicago marathon Elite Development 9/9/2011 10:20AM - in reply to pablo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

pablo wrote:

It's not just the geezers, I know of AT LEAST 3 other guys on that list who have not gotten the sub-1:11 or sub-2:31 that is supposedly required for admission into that corral.

It doesn't really make me angry, but why even have the time standards if you're not going to stand by them? Some of the guys on that list are going to run 2:40+, putting them in the A corral is NOT going to have any affect on their finishing time.


Really? I ran 2:31:07 and was denied entrance to the elite development coral. I find that to be crap because most of the dudes running 1:10 halfs are going to suck it up at the actual marathon. I really think Chicago needs to get rid of the HM as a qualifying standard, just as the Olympic trials do as well.
pablo
RE: Chicago marathon Elite Development 9/9/2011 11:54AM - in reply to runnerrennur Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

runnerrennur wrote:
Really? I ran 2:31:07 and was denied entrance to the elite development coral. I find that to be crap because most of the dudes running 1:10 halfs are going to suck it up at the actual marathon. I really think Chicago needs to get rid of the HM as a qualifying standard, just as the Olympic trials do as well.


My guess is that people that get into the elite development corral without the times always seem to "know" someone. But where do you draw the line? One of the guys I know in that corral is only a 1:14 half marathoner.

I was turned down as well at 2:31:05, but now have a 1:09 half...so I'm in. I started in the A corral in 2009 and it only took me 5 seconds to cross the start line, if you're at the front of A, it will NOT make a difference. The main advantage (I'm guessing) to the elite development corral is the acces to the private port-o-johns and private bag check. Otherwise, it really doesn't make a difference.
not a fan...
RE: Chicago marathon Elite Development 9/9/2011 2:51PM - in reply to pablo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I waited about 20 minutes in the "private" porta-potty line last year in the Elite Development area. I jogged over from the Soldier Field area and probably went by a few hundred open restrooms on my way, but foolishly thought I'd be able to go in the Elite Development area. Barely got out of there before they took us to the line. Not much of a benefit if you ask me.
916
RE: Chicago marathon Elite Development 11/23/2011 2:42AM - in reply to not a fan... Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You must be bull$h1tting because soldier field is nowhere near the start of the marathon.
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