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Wouldn't surprise me if this was a bit of a bureaucratic "hit." I think the only major Jamaican sprinters actually on their WC team training in the USA are Mullings and VCB. They may have intentionally set up a USA based athlete to make native Jamaicans appear clean to the Jamaican fan base. But as you know well, the IAAF can't afford financially to have 9.58 caught. But they also know the amount of suspicion of their program (they only have to read the NY Times or BBC to see that). Could also be that the JAAA really wants Nesta Carter to begin with. Could be that Mullings, guilty before, has always been doping, so he may have been an easy mark. Lance Brauman is a convicted crook, but not for doping. And Tyson is voluntarily tested every week by USADA. VCB also used to train in that group. |
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And if you think ANY Jamaican sprinters are clean, add up the numbers here: http://www.trackalerts.com/news/lead-stories/5299-positive-test-for-jamaican-athlete |
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C'mon, Veronica's not getting THAT old.[/quote] I was referring specifically to Jeter to be honest especially after "alleged" issues with her providing an adequate urine sample after her 10.64 in Shanghai. But I'm sure this goes a lot deeper into track and field than her and other suspected dopers. Like with Ben Johnson I'm sure they chose this guy as the fall guy for this specific drug to send a signal that they needed to tone down drug use. Mind there have been rumoured cases of the authorities purposely ignoring knowledge and rumours of the use of certain substances even when presented with samples of the drugs. Norbolethone being one such example. |
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It's Yohan Blake. I am very disappointed but was informed earlier today |
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PS. This whole US vs Jamaica thing needs to stop. The accusations that there have been more doping Jamaicans than US athletes and whatnot needs to stop, NOW. Both groups are equally culpable and equally likely due to the financial and social benefits of being the best and being in the limelight. This isn't some thing where you can toss out accusations that Jamaican's are unethical as a whole and thus will cheat etc. Blanket statements like that only engender conflict and deflect away from the true issue which is the simple fact that doping in professional sport is rampant. |
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Yohan isn't doubling up in Daegu, the athlete busted is US-based and was intended to double up in Daegu. So......................... who informed you it was Blake? |
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ah crap my bad i meant Mullings. I kinda zoned out when i wrote this. But anyway, you really think Tyson would pull out of Worlds with his chances being so good and go through with surgery because his training partner failed a test? Regardless, he's part of that US anti doping program so he gets tested at a higher frequency than most athletes. |
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This reminds me of one time in Home economics, my teacher (Ms. Lisa we called her)you see had all put in for homework checks, but my buddy Ralph was going steady with this girl named Gail and they went out the night before. In order to save some time on his work (so that he could head down to "lovers lane" with Gail), he skipped the questions 2-15. I spent that very same night however constructing model airplanes, though! So let that be a lesson to you all! |
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If the test was introduced just prior to worlds and would only be applicable to tests at the US and Jamaica trials coupled with the fact that when one training partner is busted it usually runs a lot deeper than just the individual as it usually entails a rather coordinated and well monitored drug regime I would say YES. Tyson doesn't have to be tested if he's injured or post "surgery" so yes, in all likelihood I'd vouch for his withdrawal at US trials in the same weekend that his partner was tested as bloody suspicious, regardless of his well-reported squeaky clean image. In any case, I highly doubt Mullings will be the last and he's certainly not the first to be busted for the suspected drug (said to be furosemide) see FINA championships and athletes getting caught just before them for further evidence. Better believe that there will be widespread test failures in the near term. Mullings is the tip of a very large iceberg. It also doesn't help that Mullings and Tyson are publicly very close friends. The sad truth is that doping at the professional level in most sports is more or less the norm and the sooner we accept that, the sooner this vilification of athletes far and wide for doing what everyone else is doing (and have to do really just to hold their bodies together). Personally I feel athletics would benefit from an F1 style approach. The best and fastest cars almost invariably win and that is often down to who has the most funding and can bend the rules regulations and restrictions the best. Have a draft-type setup. The fastest in certain age groups without drugs get picked up (after reaching physical maturity)by teams and made to be the best they can be. We'll get the fast times and super-human performances we want and the athletes will be better looked after and healthier for it. |
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It's shameful to read this from a coach....what this show's is that all are being adequately tested on a routine basis. If you cheat you will get caught. Don't start the US vs Jam cheat numbers...you will be very alarmed at the US numbers over the pass two decades. |
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The brojos are owed an apology. http://www.letsrun.com/2005/mullings.php To newcomers to LetsRun, back in 2005, Mullings was given a scholarship to Miss. State after testing positive for steroids. Back then IAAF tests didn't apply to the NCAA. Mullings was quite a force at the conference level and right before NCAAs, letsrun.com decided enough was enough and had a petition that ended up getting Mullings pulled from the meet. They got all sorts of hell and intimidation from Miss State people who believed Mullings story. Now it looks like Mullings has tested positive again. And we have a winner. Letsrun yet again. |
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The people defending American athletes will bring up # of doping busts per capita in the country. I frankly couldn't give a flying f*** where the athlete is from. The rules are the rules and if you break em, you're out. But that said, enforcing these rules is a never ending game with no winner and the only loser is the fans and kids holding out the hope that they can be just like them. I say screw a level playing field, limit athletes and their groups by funding like in F1 while keeping them healthy and call it a bloody day. |
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far from true dre....tyson has to be available anytime, anywhere, no matter what. the ONLY thing that can keep him from having to test is filing retirement papers, which typically means you can't come back for at least 6 months, if you decide to "change your mind"...they do this so athletes can't "leave the system" so to speak. being injured has NOTHING to do with how usada will test tyson, or the iaaf, wada, etc. please know before you speak, it will make you look more edumacated. thank you.
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[/quote] You failed, however, to inform us of your own ability to break 9.85. |
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If it's Mullings, I'll take the apology. If it's Mullings, I don't see how Gay's pulling out of USAs is related at all. You go to the US and Jamaican Nationals assuming you're going to get tested. Your training partner gets tested in Jamaica and won't know the results for months so you pull out? Why would that make you pull out for a bs reason? Anytime someone tests positive there will be suspicion on others in the same training group but if its Mullings his history points to doping before he joined the group. |
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It has been confimred that it's Mullings... |
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Steve Mullings tests positive The future of Jamaican sprinter Steve Mullings now hangs in the balance after revelations that he tested positive for a masking agent, two weeks before the start of the IAAF World Championships in Athletics in Daegu, South Korea. Mullings now faces a minimum ban of four years and could be removed from the sport for life. http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20110811/sports/sports1.html |
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I heard that Wejo's dog is taking a diuretic. A neighbor confirmed earlier today that Hershey was peeing on a bush in Wejo's front yard. I think if Wejo does any kind of a organized racing in the near future it will raise suspicion for everyone in his group. |
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Wejo, delete this thread please. |
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Wejo you are correct on the coincidence of the positive test for Mullings and Tyson's pulling out. HOWEVER, the connection is there between the 2 as close and from the same camp. This is going to get big, real big. No reason for people to jump the gun and start firing shots at Jamaica or US as from what I am hearing we will soon see dozens of positives as the testers now have knowledge and ability to determine what they were informed many athletes have been taking for awhile now. I hear there is also a major improvement to the tests for HGH and EPO use so everyone needs to be prepared for the largest number of positives ever which is why I predict we will see big numbers pulling out prior to Daegu. For example the new test for EPO accounts for the natural deterioration of the B sample when its not tested until the deadline an athlete has to have it tested. This is how Marion Jones and Bernard Lagat for example had postive A samples for EPO use but the B came back clean because they waited as long as possible to have it tested. It seems also the testing agencies' consultions with people with intricate knowledge of the tricks of the trade (deals with the dirty side like was done with the clear in Balco) are providing a great deal of insight that is going to make the sport so much cleaner moving forward. |