your thoughts
your thoughts
depends
4:10 is probably easier for most people, except those true endurance monsters, and even then they are likely pretty eqiovlent, doubt there are many 14.10 guys that cant run 4.10 and i know there are many 4.10 guys that can go up to 5k.
For most people, 4:10. Doesn't matter if it's 15 or mile.
4:10...I ran 4:10 in college, and I couldn't come close to running 14:10.
newsleak wrote:
4:10...I ran 4:10 in college, and I couldn't come close to running 14:10.
You shouldn't assume everyone else is like you. This is a major problem in society today. People assume everyone else in the world is the same as themselves and then get upset and bent out of shape and condescending when they realized people are different.
we talking 1500 or mile?
Don't see why it matters... it's easier to run 14:10 than 4:10 at ANY distance...
Depends on your age and if you are a MD runner or LD; all things considered, 14:10 is probably a better mark, although, they are about equal. I ran under 4:10, but I could barely break 15 in a 5K, which is not unusual for a MD runner. I had a college teammate with an equivalent 4:11 mile PR, but ran 13:55 in a 5K. These days, a 4:10 mile will barely get you in into H.S. top-10 list, but a 14:10 5k will put you in the top-3...you get the point.
TrackCoach wrote:
These days, a 4:10 mile will barely get you in into H.S. top-10 list, but a 14:10 5k will put you in the top-3...you get the point.
What??
Rupp 13.37
Lindgren 13.44
Ritz 13.44
Derrick 13.55
Virgin 13.5xish
Salazar 13somthing I think or 14.0something
and that is just off the top of my head right now.
4:10. 14:10 would be what, 4:30 per mile? Give or take a bit. To me it would seem that it's a lot easier to suffer through 4 laps of hell to hit a 4:10 than it would be to run 5000m at that pace. (Assuming we are talking for 1600m and 5000m respectively). Just on a personal note, based off of my 1600 and 5000 PRs, the thought of running 14:10 doesn't even cross my mind. However, with the right training and a good race, 4:10 seems like something I'd be capable of in the future.
He obviously meant for that specific year, not the all-time list.
4:10 is so much easier this thread is rediculous
From the NCAA D3 indoor list this year, 12 guys ran 4:10 mile or faster. Nobody broke 14:10 and the closest was 14:13.
I say definitely 4:10. I ran 4:12 (converted) a week or so after going sub 14:20, and I am much stronger in the 5k than the mile.
word to your marmot wrote:
I say definitely 4:10. I ran 4:12 (converted) a week or so after going sub 14:20, and I am much stronger in the 5k than the mile.
So you did not run 4:10, or 14:10. Thanks for the completely irrelevant opinion.
beentheredonethat wrote:
TrackCoach wrote:These days, a 4:10 mile will barely get you in into H.S. top-10 list, but a 14:10 5k will put you in the top-3...you get the point.
What??
Rupp 13.37
Lindgren 13.44
Ritz 13.44
Derrick 13.55
Virgin 13.5xish
Salazar 13somthing I think or 14.0something
and that is just off the top of my head right now.
In a specific year.
stiff pain wrote:
newsleak wrote:4:10...I ran 4:10 in college, and I couldn't come close to running 14:10.
You shouldn't assume everyone else is like you. This is a major problem in society today. People assume everyone else in the world is the same as themselves and then get upset and bent out of shape and condescending when they realized people are different.
Hey buddy, don't be an idiot. I hope that's not too condescending for ya, but 4:10 is way easier than 14:10. Based on the other responses on this thread, it looks like I'm a little closer to the correct answer than you.
I've known 3:57 milers that could only go 14:00-14:10 and I've known 14:00 5000 runners that couldn't break 4:10 for the mile.
It depends on the type of runner. Their have been a few high school runners that could run 14:10 which is superstellar but only could run 4:08-4:10 for the mile, which isn't as impressive. So I would say 14:10 is tougher. But to those guys breaking 4:10 would be harder, although a few weeks of mid-distance training and tapering and the majority could probably easily do it.
I'd say 14:10 is harder to do (as in not many people do it compared to 4:10), but I feel that because it is a faster race, someone who has just run a 4:10 will feel more exhausted than someone who just ran a 14:10.
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