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RE: List of Athletes Denied Entry into USAs Despite Fields Not Being Full 7/1/2011 12:57AM - in reply to itnevermattersanyway Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It seems clear that in 2008, they went as far down the list in replacements as allowed Has.ay in the race..Even though Hasay and another athlete were added, they then claimed it was too late to add to the field even though the athlete you mentioned knew there was another scratch.

As it happens, Hasay's case is another good illustration of someone who otherwise wouldn't have been in the field having an important race. Besides making finals, running at Trials sealed Jordan's decision to go to Oregon, and therefore had a huge impact on her running career - something to note for those in the 'who cares about athletes who are 30th anyway running" crowd.
Justice B. White
RE: List of Athletes Denied Entry into USAs Despite Fields Not Being Full 7/1/2011 5:58AM - in reply to wejo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
wejo, sorry for the re-post but I feel this
should be debated.

If I was Verzbicas' parents I would look for an appellate
attorney/immigration attorney and file a petition for
a Writ of Certiorari for his immigration status to
be immediately updated. His case is unique, he is young
(time is running out for his opportunity) Lukas Verzbicas wants to compete for the United States Olympic team,
he needs to get somebody, even the ACLU, to expedite his
status. If I was in his shoes (sorry for the pun) I'd get
the ball rolling on this -extraordinary case-.
Clarence Thoooomas
RE: List of Athletes Denied Entry into USAs Despite Fields Not Being Full 7/1/2011 8:39AM - in reply to Justice B. White Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I too feel Lukas has extenuating circumstances that merit
a writ. He's been more than a model citizen yet the Americanization should be retroactive to when came to the USA given his earned extenuating circumstances as a youthful athlete. To give rise to the millions of Obama youth!
---o--_o
RE: List of Athletes Denied Entry into USAs Despite Fields Not Being Full 7/1/2011 10:11AM - in reply to Kenard Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Kenard wrote:
Less than that, but the first line is "import bcs"


Come on!
The first line is always #!/usr/bin/python
lolzwut?
RE: List of Athletes Denied Entry into USAs Despite Fields Not Being Full 7/1/2011 10:23AM - in reply to itnevermattersanyway Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Agree. You would go to a national meeting only to be excluded by the cronies and not allowed to vote. It would be a huge waste of time, effort and money.

itnevermattersanyway wrote:

In terms of attending the annual meeting...I am not convinced anything really happens there. I think most of the sketchiness is happening behind closed doors. I attended an annual meeting as an athlete (the "rookie" camp) and we had a vote about whether or not to talk about voting on an athlete union. I mean it was insane hearing people argue about having a vote about whether to talk about having a vote.
What Else
RE: List of Athletes Denied Entry into USAs Despite Fields Not Being Full 7/1/2011 7:16PM - in reply to lolzwut? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I just watched A Few Good Men for the first time on AMC. I found the story pretty predictable, like I had just read about the same thing happening over the last week.
Nada
RE: List of Athletes Denied Entry into USAs Despite Fields Not Being Full 7/2/2011 10:02AM - in reply to What Else Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Asked JC about why some athletes like Abdi were allowed to run, his response to me: "HAve a nice day"
Maximus
RE: List of Athletes Denied Entry into USAs Despite Fields Not Being Full 7/2/2011 10:25AM - in reply to Truth Sayer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Truth Sayer wrote:

Let's be honest though. Those runners on the bubble would most likely not make any noise at the world championships - so what's the point of letting them in? If you're struggling to get into the field because of your on-the-bubble times what chance do you have at worlds? Zero.

If you are truly fast and a contender you will be allowed in the meet. If you are a pretender wishing to be good - Chaplin will weed you out.


I know several other people have commented on your post as well, but it is really sad that someone thinks this way and doesn't understand that most of the people at the top were at one point working their way up. The national championships are just as much about helping up and coming athletes to develop and gain experience as it is to choose the national team. I am sure many young athletes have been turned off by the sport and given up because they were denied the right to compete at the national championships for no reason. If you are in the top 32 in the country and there are lanes open, why would there be an logical reason not to let them compete.
Write to the CEO
RE: List of Athletes Denied Entry into USAs Despite Fields Not Being Full 7/2/2011 10:37AM - in reply to Maximus Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Anyone who knows John Chaplin knows he is corrupt to the soul. At the USA meet I kept asking everyone about why these situations happen, and everyone kept telling me its because of Chaplin. Mike McNees is the acting CEO of USATF. Sit down and write an e-mail to Mike (a former Indiana hurdler) and tell him how corrupt the system is. Copy Stephanie Hightower. Trust me if enough folks put it in writing at least it will bring it to the level of the problem being debated. Copy David Woods who writes for the Indianapolis Star and is one of the best track writers in the country. Its tragic that young athletes get screwed over by Chaplin every year.
whatever man
RE: List of Athletes Denied Entry into USAs Despite Fields Not Being Full 7/2/2011 12:35PM - in reply to Write to the CEO Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I have written Craig M. and Doug L. and they both gave me the same stock response (paraphrased). "That's very interesting, I will take it under advisement. Currently we vote internally on who gets to be an officer with us and this is how our by-laws are set up. Thank you for your concern here, and please continue to support our sport!"

So that option has proven ineffective.
uhmmwhat
RE: List of Athletes Denied Entry into USAs Despite Fields Not Being Full 7/2/2011 2:09PM - in reply to whatever man Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Brian Gagnon, one of the 800 runners kept out of the championships, just posted his testimonial on his team's blog.

http://in-the-arena-itanhteam.blogspot.com/
Randy Oldman
RE: List of Athletes Denied Entry into USAs Despite Fields Not Being Full 7/2/2011 2:21PM - in reply to uhmmwhat Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
uhmmwhat wrote:

Brian Gagnon, one of the 800 runners kept out of the championships, just posted his testimonial on his team's blog.

http://in-the-arena-itanhteam.blogspot.com/


Is the capital h in "He" sarcasm or a typo?
Et Tu NYMetro
RE: List of Athletes Denied Entry into USAs Despite Fields Not Being Full 7/2/2011 3:02PM - in reply to polevaultpower Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
polevaultpower wrote:

[quote]get ugly wrote:

How do these policies get changed? Do we all need to go to St. Louis for the annual meeting and vote? I'm down for that.


To vote you need to be a delegate from your association, or if you are an elite athlete, get involved with AAC. So start by attending Association meetings.[/quote]
Even if your assn selects you the "HomeOffice" can decertify your assn if they get wind a troublemaker has been selected to go.
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