Solinsky is not going to run the 10K

I'm on the same page here, was confused when I saw his name on the list.

I think that most people believe that he will run the 10k for one major reason. HE DECLARED. If he chooses not to run he will be cheating others that would have been included in the field. I think that Solinsky and Tegenkamp are both men of character and not running in the 10k would be dirty after DECLARING.

I can see Solinsky taking a look at this thing for the first 5k. Basically jump in and hope it goes out slow. If some guys try to go for the A then make a decision. If more than 2 go, then can you beat who's left for 3rd in a kick? If more than 2 go, do you think they all have what it takes to get the A? Can you let them go and still get 4th? If it looks like it will take too much effort then pull the plug and come back the next day in the 5.

rumor is his hamstring is still bothering him, so the 10000 may be the better option for him as it will almost surely be at a slower pace than the 5000, meaning the 10000 probably wont aggravate the hamstring as much.

also with the 5000 and lagat running probably means only 2 spots are realistically available, compared to 3 in the 10000

of course if he is healthy he could make the team in either event or both.

race yourself fit wrote:

I think that most people believe that he will run the 10k for one major reason. HE DECLARED. If he chooses not to run he will be cheating others that would have been included in the field. I think that Solinsky and Tegenkamp are both men of character and not running in the 10k would be dirty after DECLARING.

Don't they have til day before or day of to opt out?

Definite maybe wrote:

I can see Solinsky taking a look at this thing for the first 5k. Basically jump in and hope it goes out slow. If some guys try to go for the A then make a decision. If more than 2 go, then can you beat who's left for 3rd in a kick? If more than 2 go, do you think they all have what it takes to get the A? Can you let them go and still get 4th? If it looks like it will take too much effort then pull the plug and come back the next day in the 5.

That's a slippery slope. Next thing you know you can't finish a race (Alistar Craig).

douglas burke wrote:

rumor is his hamstring is still bothering him, so the 10000 may be the better option for him as it will almost surely be at a slower pace than the 5000, meaning the 10000 probably wont aggravate the hamstring as much.

also with the 5000 and lagat running probably means only 2 spots are realistically available, compared to 3 in the 10000

of course if he is healthy he could make the team in either event or both.

I would argue that with Rupp in the 10k only 2 spots are realistically available too - Chris beat Galen once in a 10K, but this is a national championship and Rupp is the 2 time defending champion, scoreboard.

Lets say a third place finish in the 10K is 27:40. A third place finish in the 5K is 13:20. I think those times are modest. It could be slower but it could be faster too. You think Solinsky can run those times on consecutive days? I honestly don't know. But that strikes me as very impressive. More to the point, questionable and unnecessarily risky. There will be some dedicated, talented, and fresh runners in the 5K in peak shape. Running a 27:40 10K the night before you take those guys on sounds a little bit crazy to me.

douglas burke wrote:

of course if he is healthy he could make the team in either event or both.

Shit, what about Bekele? The guy is in the same situation, yet got a spot in both 10k and 5k in 2009. American runners need to grow some balls.

I don't see Solinsky as a guy who will drop out or run for third. Every interview of him I've watched/read, he comes across incredibly far from that. I imagine someone would have to be very convincing to get him to race for 3rd or start a race only contingently planning to finish. I just don't buy it. I think if he is injured it makes the most sense that he entered both not being sure which the best option for his hamstring would be. Though, I also think that the difference in pace between 5k and 10k is too small for it to be the determining factor in whether his hamstring can hold up. That said, having coached someone who made it to USAs for the first time via the provo, I wouldn't hold it against him in the slightest for declaring in both.

Why no mention of Teg?

He's also in the 10K.

Gets in to jog and kick for third (because let's face it, US renaissance or not, he can) for insurance against not making the 5000.

the smartest letsrunner wrote:

Gets in to jog and kick for third (because let's face it, US renaissance or not, he can) for insurance against not making the 5000.

No, he CANNOT jog and kick for third. You must really be stupid. That is not the way it will work moron. You need to educate yourself.

henny young man wrote:

the smartest letsrunner wrote:

Gets in to jog and kick for third (because let's face it, US renaissance or not, he can) for insurance against not making the 5000.

No, he CANNOT jog and kick for third. You must really be stupid. That is not the way it will work moron. You need to educate yourself.

chill out asshole, it could possibly work, he is a 12:55 guy

Matt joining the 10k makes it more likely Chris isn't doing it. I'm sure the two of them talk and if Chris said he wasn't doing the 10k, then Matt probably knew that significantly increased his odds there.

If Solinsky did pull off the double qualifier (and then actually ran them at WCs), regardless of where he placed, I'd give him the male distance performance of the week.

He is not running. Chris is not fit but trying to be relevant. Just let it play out. You will see.

It seems unlikely that Solinsky would do the 10,000 and NOT the 5,000. He has talked so much about wanting to win gold in the 5,000 this summer. This attitude also makes it unlikely that Solinsky thinks that he won't make the team in the 5,000. We'll find out soon enough if he will run the 10,000 but I don't see it as "insurance" for not making the team in the 5,000.

Does anyone know if the race is going to be streamed live on the web? (and will work for connections outside the US)

acg3 wrote:

Shit, what about Bekele? The guy is in the same situation, yet got a spot in both 10k and 5k in 2009. American runners need to grow some balls.

Bekele didn't have to run a 10,000 and 5,000 on consecutive days to get his spot in 2009.