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J.R.
RE: Summary of Renato Canova principles 5/10/2011 10:50AM - in reply to 123guy123 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

123guy123 wrote:

based on this thread (particularly the fact that he responded to each of your criticisms with specific cites and and you didn't have a response)


My response is that I already responded, not the same thing.

So I can either type it 1000 times and you can read each one of them once.

Or you can go ahead and read what I typed just one time, 1000 times.

So I choose the latter one because it is easier for me to just toss a pebble in the lake, and the ripples go in every direction. Maybe you prefer a dump truck dumping garbage and bolders in the lake, this way you can bury the Canova ideas and somehow BINGO they change into vdot Daniels and At whatever crazy thing you want to change them into, which is something else but not the original.

So I already said this and I don't need to write 8 pages to try to twist it and change it to something totally different.

See. So I'm not going argue about something so stupid. You are welcome to think what you want to think, and change it to whatever you wish it to be.
honester
RE: Summary of Renato Canova principles 5/10/2011 10:59AM - in reply to J.R. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Honestly I have no idea what you're talking about J.R. You say North Star is twisting ideas, when in fact he is quoting the man directly.

If anyone is confused about Canova's training here, it is you. You did not seem to recall him using terms that he did in fact use.

Give us a concrete example of where North Star has contradicted a Canova post, or STFU. "...I want to see Canova principles, not some totally different interpretation..." - where did that come from, he is using verbatim citations!
Piece of maker
RE: Summary of Renato Canova principles 5/10/2011 2:28PM - in reply to honester Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Fellas, Fellas, Fellas!!!

You can ask Canova himself this summer in Colorado!

Look at distancesummit.com

No need to fight!
tjruns
RE: Summary of Renato Canova principles 5/10/2011 6:36PM - in reply to Northern Star Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Northstar -

When you have a moment, please send me a copy of the Canova principles article you created.

Thank you,

TJ

tjruns@hotmail.com
Tavish
RE: Summary of Renato Canova principles 5/10/2011 7:52PM - in reply to tjruns Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Are you a exercise science major in college?
Tavish
RE: Summary of Renato Canova principles 5/10/2011 7:54PM - in reply to Tavish Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
also could you hook me up with the info please send it to tavishrtaylor@gmail.com
DT1
RE: Summary of Renato Canova principles 5/13/2011 3:02AM - in reply to J.R. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Northern Star,

Can you send me your Canova article?
(I am willing to help with proofreading)

Thanks,

username0765@hotmail.com
malmo
RE: Summary of Renato Canova principles 5/13/2011 4:58AM - in reply to DT1 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Northern star, send me a copy and I'll help proof it too.

malmo.email@verizon.net
Mithr
RE: Summary of Renato Canova principles 5/13/2011 5:02AM - in reply to malmo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I would also be interested by these files.
Can send them at bolzec.thomas@free.fr ?

Thx
Bryn R
RE: Summary of Renato Canova principles 5/13/2011 5:15AM - in reply to Mithr Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
If you could send it to me as well I'd be very grateful.

brynreynolds1@hotmail.com
marke
RE: Summary of Renato Canova principles 5/13/2011 5:45AM - in reply to Bryn R Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
please send me one, I am the original poster, at ikez78@gmail.com
moose
RE: Summary of Renato Canova principles 5/13/2011 6:59AM - in reply to marke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
NorthernStar,

I would like a copy as well. Thank you.

mjdrun@gmail.com
This is what ive read
RE: Summary of Renato Canova principles 5/13/2011 9:13AM - in reply to marke Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
one should be careful, when applying Canova's training. he has stated several times that some of his workouts and methodology often isn't effective for many runners, as he focuses on training elite's who have years of huge aerobic foundation.
blaznbison24
RE: Summary of Renato Canova principles 5/13/2011 9:19AM - in reply to This is what ive read Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I'd love a copy as well. runwietecha@gmail.com
OKmetoo
RE: Summary of Renato Canova principles 5/13/2011 9:58AM - in reply to blaznbison24 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Ok, one more here please: haden418@gmail.com
J.R.
RE: Summary of Renato Canova principles 5/13/2011 10:12AM - in reply to honester Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

honester wrote:

If anyone is confused about Canova's training here, it is you. You did not seem to recall him using terms that he did in fact use.


Oh yeah, I'm confused because I get Canova principles directly from Canova hehehe.

Whatever. If you want to waste your time with a bunch of mumbo jumbo then that is certainly your perogative to do so.
quenton
RE: Summary of Renato Canova principles 5/13/2011 10:28AM - in reply to J.R. Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Hey north star, if you could send it this way that would be great.
quenton
RE: Summary of Renato Canova principles 5/13/2011 10:29AM - in reply to quenton Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Sorry, here is the email.
rekrunner
RE: Summary of Renato Canova principles 5/13/2011 12:19PM - in reply to P.Whelan Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Ding ding ding. That's what I get too. Do something like Lydiard or Hadd or Daniels for a few years, and if you're any good, he'll add the furniture to your aerobic house.

JR doesn't want to compare Daniels to Canova, so let me contrast them. To me, one main difference is that Daniels defines a bunch of training paces relative to your race times, around some physiological (or pseudo-physiological if you prefer) parameters, somewhat regardless of your main event. He defines 5 paces which have a different physiological emphasis. Whereas Canova pays more attention to your main event, and defines 7 (or so) narrow training paces to work in slightly different aspects required for racing, and everything is geared to supporting these paces.


P.Whelan wrote:

What I got out of Canova's posts: Run 80-120 mpw for 7 years then we'll talk. I feel like any discussion of his training principles that doesn't start there is missing the point.
rekrunner
RE: Summary of Renato Canova principles 5/13/2011 12:21PM - in reply to Northern Star Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
North Star, don't send me the article, but let us know when you've created the thread.
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