Renato Canova wrote:
So, they can use a percentage of lactate (may be 20%) as new source of energy, and this fact means not only that the average of speed for all the marathon can be faster than before, but also that THE INDEX OF RESISTANT resistant between different distances (for example, HM and Marathon) has the trend to become more close. If till now we spoke about a 5% of difference between the HM speed and the Marathon speed for a well trained athlete (5% of 1 hour in HM is 1:03:00 that is a marathon in 2:06:00), now we look for reducing this index to 4% (in the above case, 4% of 1 hour is 2:24, so 62:24 x 2 = 2:04:48).
If we are able to create for an athlete able running 59' in HM (and now there are many) this level of specific endurance, we can have somebody able running in 2:02 in short time.
I thanks that you actually wrote the whole idea despite we don´t see the slides !
You know. Some ideas out of context can be dangerous and wrong interpretation. The fact is that someone on this board did profit YOUR short SENTENCE to argue against what I consider a rich methodological analysis, the RESISTANCE RATIO or RESISTANCE INDEX, and as you might agree, the need of modern training to focus on specific endurance.
I want to profit your good point about INDEX OF RESISTANCE, that can be done as runner profile analysis as well as training modulation, to relate the HM with the marathon as you suggest.
Here is the table from the 58:23 Tadesse HM world record. 59:00, 59:30 and 60:00 HM and what performance would be 4% and 5% marathon RESISTANCE RATIO or RESISTANCE INDEX.
HM 58:23 – marathon (4%) 2:01:26 – (5%) 2:02:35
HM 59:00 – marathon (4%) 2:02:43 – (5%) 2:03:54
HM 59:30 – marathon (4%) 2:03:45 – (5%) 2:04:57
HM 60:00 – marathon (4%) 2:04:48 – (5%) 2:06:00
Now the list of all half marathon performances from the tadesse World record to sub 60:00 HM (only pb for each runner.
On the right side/or down the marathon performance of all the runners that on this HM top rankind when they did sub 2:07:33 marathon. I don´t include the recent Boston marathon by obvious reasons.
58:23 Zerisenay Tadese (ERI)
58:35 Samuel Wanjiru Kamau (KEN) 2:05:10
58:52 Patrick Makau Musyoki (KEN) 2:04:48
58:55 Haile Gebreselasie (ETH) 2:03:58.2
58:57 Sammy Kitwara Kirop (KEN)
58:59 Wilson Kipsang Kiprotich (KEN)
59:05 Evans Cheruiyot Kiprop (KEN) 2:04:57
59:07 Paul Kosgei Malakwen (KEN)
59:07 Jonathan Maiyo Kiplimo (KEN)
59:08 James Kwambai Kipsang (KEN)2:04:26.9
59:09 Bernard Kiprop Kipyego (KEN)
59:10 Paul Tergat (KEN) 2:04:55
59:14 Wilson Chebet Kwambai (KEN)2:06:12
59:15 Deribe Merga Ejigu (ETH) 2:06:38
59:19 Tilahun Regassa Dabe (ETH
59:20 Moses Mosop Cheruiyot (KEN)
59:21aRobert Cheruiyot Kipkoech (KEN)2:07:14
59:22 John Kirui Kiprotich (KEN)
59:26 Francis Kibiwott Larabal (KEN)
59:26 Patrick Ivuti Mukutu (KEN)
59:27 Wilson Kebenei Kiprotich (KEN)
59:27 Robert Kipchumba Kipkorir (KEN)
59:30 Yonas Kifle (ERI)
59:30 Geoffrey Mutai Kiprono (KEN)2:04:55
59:32 Dieudonné Disi (RWA)
59:32aMartin Lel Kiptolo (KEN)2:05:15
59:33 Marilson Gomes (BRA)
59:35 Tsegay Kebede Tadesse (ETH)2:05:18
59:36 Samuel Kiplimo Kosgei (KEN)
59:37aDejene Birhanu (ETH)
59:37 Stephen Kibiwott Kipkoech (KEN)
59:39 Silas Kipruto Sematei (KEN)
59:39 Wilson Kiprop (KEN
59:39 Lelisa Desisa Benti (ETH)
59:41 Benson Barus Cherono (KEN)
59:42aHendrick Ramaala (RSA)2:06:55
59:43 Ryan Hall (CA/USA) 2:06:17
59:43 Jairus Chanchima (KEN)
59:43 Charles Munyeki Kiama (KEN)
59:44aKiplimo Kimutai (KEN)
59:45 Joseph Maregu (KEN)
59:45aTekeste Kebede (ETH)2:07:23
59:48 Mekubo Mogusu Job (KEN)
59:48 Martin Irungu Mathathi
59:49 Tadese Tola Woldegeberel 2:06:31
59:50 Gideon Ngatuni Lekumok (KEN)
59:51 Titus Masai Kwemoi (KEN)
59:52 Fabian Roncero (ESP)2:07:23
59:52 Dickson Marwa (TAN)
59:53 Eshetu Wondimu Tsige (ETH) 2:06:46
59:53 Peter Kamais Lotagor (KEN)
59:54 Mathew Kipchirchir Koech (KEN)
59:55 Samuel Mwangi Gichochi (KEN)
59:56 Shem Kororia (KEN)
59:56 Fabiano Joseph (TAN)
59:56 Evans Kiplagat Barkowet (KEN)
59:56 Getu Feleke (ETH)2:05:44
59:56 John Mwangangi Nzau (KEN
59:56 Leonard Langat (KEN)
59:57 Eric Ndiema (KEN)
59:58 Moses Tanui (KEN) 2:06:16
59:59 Jaouad Gharib (MAR)2:05:27
As you might see, no one get closer to 4% neither 5% straight, and Haile Gebreselasie, the actual marathon WR, is the best one on that RATIO OF RESISTANCE that with 58:55 HM and 2:03:58.2 shows to be one of the best RESISTANCE RATIO from the world HM best.
This ranks the HM world best. At the side of the marathon best you have a little number of runners that did 4% ratio like Duncan Kibet or Sammy Korir. However or they didn´t their best HM performance yet due that the HM isn´t first event choice or they need to be faster in HM to obtain the 4% ratio of resistance and get the sub 2:03 marathon that Renato talks about.
Eventually, running and athletics isn´t mathematics as Renato remembers, but to dream or just optimistic isn´t mathematics or methodology either !
If it´s permit, in my opinion, the 4% marathon WR RESISTANCE RATIO can be done but with advanced methodology that the present methodology doesn´t seems to possess. But let´s see what´s the future will bring.
I don´t mean one outstand WR, one individual fantastic performance, I mean the special type of modern methodology that can reduce the resistance ratio to 4% or lesser.
Renato. Do you remember how long you preview that 10000m world record would be broke very soon, because it´s the weaker one in distance running ?
In 2007, 7 years ago then. I didn´t see no one to get that on 1000m WR yet, I know that the 10000 track is not run as many times that on the past, but might be one day...