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ClaireW
RE: Did you PR in Boston yesterday? 4/20/2011 1:41PM - in reply to VeganDude Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
That girl I know PRed by than +3 minutes.

She ran 3:33:40. Previous PR was 3:36:59 on a fast course.
She ran 10 marathons, most in the 4 hours+ range, and still complained about Boston, writing that it was sunny, hilly, that she had a blister and that there was not enough water stops.

At no time did she mention the perfect racing weather and wind. Huh, dishonest and whiny.
Richard Queer
RE: Did you PR in Boston yesterday? 4/20/2011 1:51PM - in reply to ClaireW Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I'll chime in.

I was there (didn't run cuz of an injury - had my best qualifying time ever too), but spoke to a fair number of runners. No PRs.

I heard one guy - 2:50ish guy - say the tailwind actually killed him. He didn't know if it was overstriding or what, but the wind definitely changed his gait ever so slightly and he got destroyed on the downhills. Boston does that anyway, but my sense is that for the non-elite, whatever the wind gave in giving a boost it took back at the end from muscle fatigue associated with whatever the wind did to adjust one's gait. The elite males had a great day, but that's because they are exceptional runners to begin with, take far fewer steps, and are out there for an hour less than the rest. Certainly an advantage to them.

So, for the non-elite, it seemed to be too much of a good thing. I guess a bit like making all those downhills just a tad steeper!
Crimea River
RE: Did you PR in Boston yesterday? 4/20/2011 2:24PM - in reply to Richard Queer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
That actually makes a lot of sense. I wonder how many non-elites get proper "callousing" training for the downhills? I suspect not many.




Richard Queer wrote:

I'll chime in.

I was there (didn't run cuz of an injury - had my best qualifying time ever too), but spoke to a fair number of runners. No PRs.

I heard one guy - 2:50ish guy - say the tailwind actually killed him. He didn't know if it was overstriding or what, but the wind definitely changed his gait ever so slightly and he got destroyed on the downhills. Boston does that anyway, but my sense is that for the non-elite, whatever the wind gave in giving a boost it took back at the end from muscle fatigue associated with whatever the wind did to adjust one's gait. The elite males had a great day, but that's because they are exceptional runners to begin with, take far fewer steps, and are out there for an hour less than the rest. Certainly an advantage to them.

So, for the non-elite, it seemed to be too much of a good thing. I guess a bit like making all those downhills just a tad steeper!
obiwan 6262
RE: Did you PR in Boston yesterday? 4/20/2011 2:25PM - in reply to ClaireW Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
this was my second marathon. i ran 3:22. i ran 3:09 last april. i thought i was in better shape this time around. did a tempo run of 6 miles at 6:25 pace 10 days before the race and it felt pretty easy. went out conservative in 1:32:30 versus the 1:29 i went out in during my 3:09, and died like a b*tch the last 4 miles. oh yeah, and i'm coming off a huge 10 mile pr of 62:15 from the end of november, shaving about 2 minutes off my old pr.
road rashed
RE: Did you PR in Boston yesterday? 4/20/2011 2:29PM - in reply to obiwan 6262 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
PR'd at Boston last year. DNS'd this year due to multiple injuries. Hoping to get back to a good one there next Spring.
I was there too
RE: Did you PR in Boston yesterday? 4/20/2011 2:47PM - in reply to Richard Queer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I tried to take advantage of the tailwind. Ran the first half at what I thought wasn't too aggressive (1:25:30). Planned that if I had it that day I could negative split to break 2:50 at Boston. Like others, my legs were trashed before I even got to the Newton hills. I ran my slowest mile down the hill after Heartbreak. Faded to a 2:56. My qualifying time was 2:49.
jorvack
RE: Did you PR in Boston yesterday? 4/20/2011 2:51PM - in reply to I was there too Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
When I used to run boston I used to do downhill repeats, helped with the quads.
I ran 2:36 I ran 5 times and pr'd when ever it was below 70 degrees, so 3x
Same story
RE: Did you PR in Boston yesterday? 4/20/2011 3:09PM - in reply to jorvack Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Same story.

PR is 2:56 low. On PR pace until 16. Did a decent job up the hills, about 7:10. But was agonizingly slow coming down, 7:25. Slowest 5k split was from 35 to 40. Energy was fine, but legs were trashed. Last 2k got back down to 6:55.

Just crept under 3:00 at 2:59 high.
Flatulus
RE: Did you PR in Boston yesterday? 4/20/2011 3:12PM - in reply to dean moriarty Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Except for those that were injured, under-trained or Boston rookies.


dean moriarty wrote:

So everyone ran at least a course PR, except for those that didn't?

[quote]Flatulus wrote:

Ignoring those that were injured, under-trained or Boston rookies, everyone I know ran at least a course PR.
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Faded Bad
RE: Did you PR in Boston yesterday? 4/20/2011 3:30PM - in reply to Boston, my lovely Boston Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
PR? Yes. Goal met? No.

Went out at 2:55 pace. Held through 20 miles. Got crushed on Heartbreak, falling from 6:50 mile before to 7:30. Went back under 7 minutes for next mile, but never really recovered. Bled time bad from there on out. Finished in nearly 3 flat, but on the wrong side of it.

Previous PR was from last year's race -- high 3:06.
Boston 1st timer
RE: Did you PR in Boston yesterday? 4/20/2011 3:51PM - in reply to Faded Bad Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I was almost 8 minutes slower than my PR (which was also my qualifying time). But I ran my 2nd best time ever. I didn't train as much as I should have (training through the winter was not easy). Although I had some of my best long runs ever in training, the total mileage just wasn't there. I also knew it was a harder course than I had ever done before. So I didn't really go in with any set goal time....I had more of a range in mind....and I finished in the range I was looking for, so I was satisfied. I think not knowing the course was the biggest problem for me. I didn't really know how to pace myself. I knew the hills were going to be tough, but I didn't know how tough or how conservative I should be preparation for them. I also found it to be a little warm (especially having trained through the cold winter), but I can't complain too much about the weather! It was a beautiful day. Overall I felt like I paced myself well. I was able to run up all the hills, when many other people were walking. And despite the fact that my quads were trashed with about 4 miles to go, and I thought I might have to stop and walk, I didn't. I was able to keep running. I actually picked it up with a mile to go and finished strong. This was my 1st Boston Marathon and the experience was amazing! I'd love to get back some day. Now that I know the course and won't be so overwhelmed by the whole experience, I think I could definitely improve my time.
1st Time Local
RE: Did you PR in Boston yesterday? 4/20/2011 3:58PM - in reply to Boston 1st timer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
First time running Boston, but very familiar with the course from long runs and weekly medium-long runs. Ran a ~2.5 minute PR (2:53:15 - formerly 2:55:55 in nyc), but training and tune-up races indicated I should have had closer to an 8 minute PR. Bombed the last 10k big time, but really just felt off from the start.

Did anyone else feel the intensity of the sun and temperature at certain times in the race? I noticed that more than the tailwind, unfortunately...
LibertyPark
RE: Did you PR in Boston yesterday? 4/20/2011 4:25PM - in reply to 1st Time Local Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I ran about a min off of my PR that was set in Chicago 07, but I ran about min faster then my fall marathon from last year which was on flat loop course and a good day too.

Stupid pacing and not enough hill training overcame the condidtions.

I noticed the sun and the heat at some points too, then when the wind blew at me it was cold too. I got sunburn too - first time I ran with bare arms and legs in a long time.
Quagmiregiggty
RE: Did you PR in Boston yesterday? 4/20/2011 5:39PM - in reply to Boston, my lovely Boston Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I pr'd three times. This is an adult site, right?
Boston, my lovely Boston
RE: Did you PR in Boston yesterday? 4/20/2011 6:47PM - in reply to jorvack Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

jorvack wrote:

When I used to run boston I used to do downhill repeats, helped with the quads.
I ran 2:36 I ran 5 times and pr'd when ever it was below 70 degrees, so 3x


Nice. How many reps? How steep? How many? How fast?
Boston, my lovely Boston
RE: Did you PR in Boston yesterday? 4/20/2011 6:59PM - in reply to 1st Time Local Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

1st Time Local wrote:

First time running Boston, but very familiar with the course from long runs and weekly medium-long runs. Ran a ~2.5 minute PR (2:53:15 - formerly 2:55:55 in nyc), but training and tune-up races indicated I should have had closer to an 8 minute PR. Bombed the last 10k big time, but really just felt off from the start.

Did anyone else feel the intensity of the sun and temperature at certain times in the race? I noticed that more than the tailwind, unfortunately...


Congrats on the PR! I met people from Alaska that felt the same and friends from Quebec that DNFd. I trained in Ontario all winter so it definitely felt warm, especially with the tailwind and the body heat of the other runners in the first 10k. I was in the 4th corral. One advantage of being a faster runner and being closer to the front is having fewer people crowding you and getting a little more spread out faster along the course, making it feel cooler. Gotta get faster!
Boston, my lovely Boston
RE: Did you PR in Boston yesterday? 4/20/2011 7:03PM - in reply to Boston 1st timer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Boston 1st timer wrote:

I was almost 8 minutes slower than my PR (which was also my qualifying time). But I ran my 2nd best time ever. I didn't train as much as I should have (training through the winter was not easy). Although I had some of my best long runs ever in training, the total mileage just wasn't there. I also knew it was a harder course than I had ever done before. So I didn't really go in with any set goal time....I had more of a range in mind....and I finished in the range I was looking for, so I was satisfied. I think not knowing the course was the biggest problem for me. I didn't really know how to pace myself. I knew the hills were going to be tough, but I didn't know how tough or how conservative I should be preparation for them. I also found it to be a little warm (especially having trained through the cold winter), but I can't complain too much about the weather! It was a beautiful day. Overall I felt like I paced myself well. I was able to run up all the hills, when many other people were walking. And despite the fact that my quads were trashed with about 4 miles to go, and I thought I might have to stop and walk, I didn't. I was able to keep running. I actually picked it up with a mile to go and finished strong. This was my 1st Boston Marathon and the experience was amazing! I'd love to get back some day. Now that I know the course and won't be so overwhelmed by the whole experience, I think I could definitely improve my time.


That's my thinking too. The course chewed me up. I loved the whole Boston crazy experience and I wish that I hadn't had any goals in mind so that I might have been happier with how I did, but I know now and I'll be back!
Pegleg
RE: Did you PR in Boston yesterday? 4/20/2011 8:54PM - in reply to Boston, my lovely Boston Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I ran my slowest but probably my smartest and best race. Due to injury and a tough winter I did not really start training till early March. Being my 5th Boston in a row, I would say that it was the best conditions I have had. I did start to feel warm around Natick but once you got into the city it felt much better. My previous years I ran a 2-8 min positive split, this year I ran a 3 min negative split. I think a lot of that was due to an injury I have been going through that does not allow me run at a decent pace till my leg warms up, so my first 10k was 30 seconds slower per mile than the next 20 miles. Ended up 4 min off my PR, but will take it considering I didn't train much. The wind definitely helped once things spread out and you got into Brookline.
Stinky McHughes
RE: Did you PR in Boston yesterday? 4/20/2011 9:49PM - in reply to Boston, my lovely Boston Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
BeantownPubCrawl
RE: Did you PR in Boston yesterday? 4/20/2011 10:35PM - in reply to Boston, my lovely Boston Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Just the kind of post I was looking for. Was the slowest of my 3 Bostons, but I'm 40 now. Ran 2:59 at 25, 2:49 at 32, 3:00 this year (life PR of 2:40). I felt like I was (barely) in sub-3:00 shape (qualified 2:57 a year ago), so was thinking definitely sub-3:00 with the wind. I agree that the sun and temps were slightly warm, but not bad. I never really felt the tailwind, and I made note to look at the cups on the road to see if they were blowing forward, and only noted this once. I think one big difference for us rank-and-file runners was all the standing around waiting for buses, porta pots, etc. (not to mention sight-seeing and expo walking all weekend). I think, for me, that and the sun evened out the benefits of the wind. Either that or I'm just a wimp who should have run a couple minutes faster, or I misjudged my fitness.
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