The recent sports media has asummed the worst with Davies. Citing that he must have done something really bad on the honor code in order to be dismissed from the team. Then it came out that he at least didn't commit a crime. Now its on espn that his violation was having premarital sex.
Really BYU?
check out the ad on this page. has letsrun decided to allow that kind of thing or how are these ads being chosen?
that honor code is very vague and absurdly restrictive.
I assumed "honor code violation" as plagiarizing or cheating on a paper or exam, as it is at normal schools. But no, it amounts to total control over how they live their lives, but does not mention cheating.
The Honor Code at BYU
Be honest
Live a chaste and virtuous life
Obey the law and all campus policies
Use clean language
Respect others
Abstain from alcoholic beverages, tobacco, tea, coffee, and substance abuse
Participate regularly in church services
Observe the Dress and Grooming Standards
Encourage others in their commitment to comply with the Honor Code
http://saas.byu.edu/catalog/2010-2011ucat/GeneralInfo/HonorCode.php
Wow, talk about ridiculous, good thing Charlie Sheen didn't go to BYU.
Maybe he should have.
Was it with Jimmer?
mormons suck.
BYU Honor Code wrote:
Observe the Dress and Grooming Standards
What does this one mean? No beards allowed? Mandatory magical underwear?
They chose to go to that school. I'll repeat that; they chose to go to that school knowing full well that certain things were expected of them if they chose to go there.
Be honest implies not cheating, by the way.
And no, I am not and never have been a Mormon.
The whole thing is hipocritical. But, that just explains that there actually is no free choice on BYU's campus. Way to make yourself above the US Constitution.
So were Jim McMahon and Danny Ainge honorable, collegiate virgins? They certainly didn't act very well-mannered many a time in their professional sporting careers.
If it was gay sex, there would be a public outcry. There needs to be a hetero rights group.
BYU athletes, mormon or not, are on contract. They choose that school, they obey the rules.
My friend, who is mormon, her whole family has gone to BYU, was telling me about a story awhile back about some football guy and a cheerleader pulling themselves out from their sport. Rumors that they had sex.
Yes, it sucks but again, it's a lifestyle over there, follow the rules.
ummm whats that? wrote:
The recent sports media has asummed the worst with Davies. Citing that he must have done something really bad on the honor code in order to be dismissed from the team. Then it came out that he at least didn't commit a crime. Now its on espn that his violation was having premarital sex.
Really BYU?
What shocks you? This is the same school and religion that refused to give a student who had GRADUATED his diploma, because he made and sold a calendar that had shirtless mormon missionary men in it. He had finished, paid for, and earned his degree and they refused to honor it.
Then the church excommunicated him for it.
I respect BYU for having standards. Most other programs who were rated in the top 5 would not have gotten rid of a player for NCAA violations much less school honor code. Davies was raised in Provo and knew the deal going in.
Having said that it looks like the program is going to suffer a great deal without Davies. BYU won't even win the MWC tourney much less the NCAA. Stick a fork in them they are done.
I've tried hard to understand Mormons, but I just cannot see a lot of them as being normal, sane people. A lot of them seem nice, but it seems like they've all been misled somewhere along the road. I don't know whether its the ridiculous Joseph Smith story, the polygamy, or just the poor attitude towards coffee, alcohol, and tea, but something just doesn't seem right to me.
If there's enough fuss about this, maybe G*d will come down and tell us that sex is okay after all. Just like he did about black people in '78.
I can take any denomination and make it seem weird. Example, telling grown men and women no sex for the rest of your life in order to serve in a church ?
is that normal ? are Baptist and no dancing normal ?
is being moved by the spirit so much you speak in tongues normal ?
I don't think you seem right to me, hows that kitten ?
POD!
BYU = Bring Your Uterus