What IS the Arises' "Stotan" philosophy?

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13 years ago 02/20/2011 7:05pm EST

Hi, all.

I have a lot of respect for the Arises and for the incredible program they manage to put together year after year up there in New York. Both men consistently reference the "Stotan" philosophy as being one of the big factors in their group's success. I know on the surface what Stotanism is: Stoic + Spartan life, originally termed by Cerutty and used with his athletes, preaches self-denial, sacrifice, a strong work ethic, etc. I am wondering, however, how the Arises specifically use this philosophy, and what this might entail for high school athletes. If anyone can offer any insight, I would really appreciate it. I am fascinated by this "Stotan" ideal.

13 years ago 02/20/2011 7:14pm EST

re: kidrunner

Move in with some homeless people and run 100 miles a week,

while dumpster diving for lunch and supper.

9 years ago 10/19/2014 4:15pm EDT

re: kidrunner

Dedication. No partying after midnight, etc.

9 years ago 10/19/2014 4:49pm EDT

re: kidrunner

A great read is A Guide to the Good Life: The Art of Stoic Joy by William B Irvine.

Stoicism is not a philosophy of sacrifice, simple life and giving things up so much as a lifestyle focusing on things that will bring a sense of tranquility.

Spartan society was very disciplined with an emphasis on education and physical development for all. There was a strong military presence in the society but it was more an extension of the emphasis on physical development of a very disciplined, educated and structured society.

Fascinating time period.

9 years ago 10/19/2014 4:55pm EDT

re: This is Sparta

This is Sparta wrote:
A great read is A Guide to the Good Life: The Art of Stoic Joy by William B Irvine.
Stoicism is not a philosophy of sacrifice, simple life and giving things up so much as a lifestyle focusing on things that will bring a sense of tranquility.
Spartan society was very disciplined with an emphasis on education and physical development for all. There was a strong military presence in the society but it was more an extension of the emphasis on physical development of a very disciplined, educated and structured society.
Fascinating time period.

Those Spartans were all gay, weren't they?

9 years ago 10/19/2014 4:55pm EDT

re: kidrunner

As I posted on the other stotan related thread (that has been deleted very quick) it seems like they have a solid group of runners right now. I think that they focus on consistent high mileage and high intensity workouts. Seems to work very well for their high school athletes.

9 years ago 10/19/2014 6:45pm EDT

re: odometer

Quoted from the Stotan bylaws:

"Thou must bury the HS athlete to perform for the short term"

"Thou must be very select and discourage less talented or motivated runners from excelling"

Hey, it works.

9 years ago 10/20/2014 7:25am EDT

re: table

same old sarcasm.....same old bs.......same old misinformation......and wrong......but hey, it sounds funny and i bet you impressed yourself......keep it going.....

9 years ago 10/20/2014 8:50pm EDT

re: kidrunner

I have a teammate who ran for their high school team. Pretty much they run high mileage, dependent on what the individual can handle, bigger workouts, lots of hills and hilly long runs. They also have their athletes do routine strength work, which is something that most highschool programs lack. And they embrace the northeast winters as a way to improve their mental toughness during races. That's all I got. Their highschool team just ran a ridiculously good race at the Manhattan invite at VCP.

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