So, you're in favor of the governor selling power plants built and financed by the Wisconsin taxpayers to private parties? Will there be any check and balance to ensure he sells them for a fair price? Any check and balance to ensure that they sell their power at a fair price? How, then, is this governor any different from the union members you claim are raping the taxpayers?
the tp isn't stopping collective bargaining for the fire unions, police unions, nor terminating military retirements. if they did that, i would support the tp. but the fact is the tp is just another bunch of selfish crooks like the gop and dems are.
Government owned power plants is socialism. Private companies will operate them more efficiently.
frets wrote:
So, you're in favor of the governor selling power plants built and financed by the Wisconsin taxpayers to private parties? Will there be any check and balance to ensure he sells them for a fair price? Any check and balance to ensure that they sell their power at a fair price? How, then, is this governor any different from the union members you claim are raping the taxpayers?
Radical Tea Party members are ensuring that Obama will win reelection. this is good!
SamuelAdams3 wrote:
I have never been more proud of the Tea Party. I really didn't think they would be this effective. We need to reduce public spending by 80% and give more control back to private industry. First continue totake the legs out from the public unions then do the same to all unions.
Then start privatising of sorts of inefficiently run public services: schools, road maintenance, social security, prisons, mental health, welfare.....everything.
Get rid all all the sufficating business regulations. Unleash the creative power of private enterprise. Cut the funding of the IRS Gestapo.
This country can be great again, but only if we get government out of our lives. I just heard about a large school district in Rhode Island I think, that fired every teacher. They will hire some back based on who they want. Good bye tenure!!
I am so excited about this political change. We have a new breed of leadership. Go Walker, you can do it!
Brick by brick. Good bye tenure!!!!!
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/02/25/rhode.island.teachers.fired/index.html?hpt=Sbin
we need a web viewable national public database that lists fired teachers, crooked and abusive cops, convicted public officials and civil servants, and disabled firemen, so that the public is protected from these scoundrels. people on this list should be banned for life from working in the public sector.
The middle working class folks have been asleep while special interests are killing them with energy prices, drugs prices, medical care, and diminished protections.
This is a wake up call for the working middle class. Look at the extended tax break for the well-to-do, do you think anyone in the tea party will fight for you the way the republicans fought for wealthy?
Obama is a politician, he will fight for you only if it doesn't hurt his standing. The unions and the working class needed the Wisconsin assault to wake up. Its simply scapegoat politics and for now its the teachers but MAKE NO MISTAKE the ultimate target is the middle class.
Thousands are Marching on Wisconsin right now. This is painful but good.
Let's get rid of all nonworking billionaire owners, the damn parasites
if walker were to include all public employees (including fire, police, natl guard) in his plan then i would support him. but right wing nazis like walker always cling onto authority figures for their own corrupt reasons.
given the economic state our states are in, walker and other state governors should eliminate taxpayer pension, medical, and dental contributions. overtime pay should be illegal for all state employees, contractors, cops, firemen, emts, consultants, etc. state cars, cell phones, private jets, etc. should be made illegal.
governors (including walker of wisconsin), justices, lawyers, state senators, administrators, representatives should be removed from their state office castles and suites and forced into open cubicle offices (like steve jobs at apple computer in cupertino). non-manager state workers should be forced into open bullpen offices (like mark zuckerberg at facebook in palo alto). 2/3rds of state buildings can then be sold off for private real estate.
Unions = legalized extortion. I hope they all collapse and their leaders die slow.
cleeeen wrote:
Unions: the people who brought you "the weekend."
You're right, let's give less power to working Americans, and more to corporations.
That will probably result in a high quality of life for most citizens.
You're obviously not a business owner.
But say you start your own restaurant, you pay your workers "X" + more for hard/good workers. Then the not so good workers get together, beat the crap out of your good workers, and won't let anyone else work for you unless you pay them "X" + more for their subpar work.
Yeah, we need more unions.
Ya and then finish it off by eliminating your job it's no big deal those people making less than 50 grand a year should get fired . I think that's way to money for people that teach are kids, put there lives on the line so you can get rich. Neighbors now turning on neighbors , as if political party's didnt alienate us enough . Great plan
Good back to your history book and see what life was like before unions.
Then come back and tell me how much you hate unions.
Conundrum wrote:
Good back to your history book and see what life was like before unions.
Then come back and tell me how much you hate unions.
I hate unions a lot. If I had a choice between getting rid of AIDS and getting rid of unions, I would get rid of unions.
Let go of the hate. Its not good for your health.
Clell Adams wrote:
cleeeen wrote:Unions: the people who brought you "the weekend."
You're right, let's give less power to working Americans, and more to corporations.
That will probably result in a high quality of life for most citizens.
You're obviously not a business owner.
But say you start your own restaurant, you pay your workers "X" + more for hard/good workers. Then the not so good workers get together, beat the crap out of your good workers, and won't let anyone else work for you unless you pay them "X" + more for their subpar work.
Yeah, we need more unions.
You obviously don't understand the purpose of unions and where they came from. Just read up on the Gilded age a little bit and then see if you really hate unions.
Ask yourself why would workers have to unite if their employers were so nice and fair.
The Gilded Age was one of the most productive in America's histories. the railroads were built, the indutrial revolution was taking off, and America was at its innovative peak. Rugged individualism with winners and losers motivated this country forward.The Republicans are more in line with this thinking. Rand Paul represents the new breed of Republican. I have worked with Republican leaders and most are in line with rugged individualism. We will get rid of the unions and get government off our backs. We put up with the Christian right because they add to our strength but that segment, strong in some tea party groups, does no damage.Bush misdirected us with his prescription drug plan and the stupid Iraq war. Both were huge government programs. The Gilded Age was wondrful. Have you ever taken the tours of the mansions in Newport. These men were allowed to be creative geniuses.We will get there again. (We need controls but very few)
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:
Clell Adams wrote:You're obviously not a business owner.
But say you start your own restaurant, you pay your workers "X" + more for hard/good workers. Then the not so good workers get together, beat the crap out of your good workers, and won't let anyone else work for you unless you pay them "X" + more for their subpar work.
Yeah, we need more unions.
You obviously don't understand the purpose of unions and where they came from. Just read up on the Gilded age a little bit and then see if you really hate unions.
Ask yourself why would workers have to unite if their employers were so nice and fair.
Seriously, Charles and David Koch and of course there father who was founder of Koch industries have been amazingly successful and good for this country. They are rugged individulists and create jobs and wealth.
These people should be role models for everyone. They are willing to share their philosophy and spread it throughout the country.
Lets reward the strong for a change and not the weak.
tea party=ku klux klan wrote:
the tp isn't stopping collective bargaining for the fire unions, police unions, nor terminating military retirements. if they did that, i would support the tp. but the fact is the tp is just another bunch of selfish crooks like the gop and dems are.
Wrong. The Tea Party is being co-opted by the GOP establishment crowd. The GOP is deathly afraid of the Tea Party types. So they joined them. And a lot of stupid folks said, "yeah, I'm a Tea Partier." But they are just fine with the likes of Newt (knewt) Gingrich, Mike War Machine Pence, John Spineless Boehner, GW Fake Conservative Bush, etc. ad nauseum.
But when the Tea Party was starting, it was (and a lot of folks still are) for getting the Federal Government back to Constitutional levels.
Now I hear folks blaming Obama for the fact that we aren't drilling in our own backyard. Well, we are drilling, just not anywhere close to full capacity. And we haven't built a refinery in how long? But the Obamanator has only been in office for just over 2 years. How long was Bush in office? how many spending bills did GW veto?