|Off the Grid|
I jumped in the SoCal 5k in early Jan, said hello to Pete at the start, and despite it being 5 mins before the start of a major race, he took the time to chat, remembered me (FB "friend") and talked about Fall XC Nats, etc.
I get the feeling his success is the result of enjoying the whole process, and training by feel. He clearly is tight with his teammates, many of whom have vastly superior running pedigrees to his. This helps, I would think.
The success of this whole group seems to be due to the fact that they have fun at it. If you are in your 40s or older and not having fun, you are doing something wrong.
the result posted above was maybe from club nationals in december?
(for what it's worth, winning time equals 28th in junior men (kirubel erassa), pretty impressive in my view (and winning by 21 seconds). amazing how this 49 year old can continue to crush all the 40 year olds. Was this course somewhat slow? The reason that I ask is that there are some pretty impressive results if you google any of the upper echelon in this race.
Results - Masters Men - Overall
Place NAME AG GEN TEAM/CITY FINISH Pace
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1. Peter Magill 49 M Compex Racing -B 26:17 5:13
2. Gray Mavhera 41 M Compex Racing 26:38 5:18
3. Christian Cushing-murray 43 M Compex Racing 26:46 5:19
4. Rusty Snow 41 M Santa Barbara Athletic Assn. 26:52 5:20
5. Tim Julian 40 M Portland, Or 27:09 5:24
6. Mike Blackmore 49 M Eugene, Or 27:20 5:26
7. James Johnson 42 M Fleet Feet Sports Boulder Racin 27:22 5:26
8. Everett Whiteside 40 M Pensacola, Fl 27:23 5:26
9. Danny Martinez 48 M Alhambra, Ca 27:28 5:27
10. Tony Torres 41 M Compex Racing 27:37 5:29
11. Jeff Ambos 49 M Compex Racing 27:37 5:29
12. Liam Collins 40 M Cortlandt Manor, Ny 27:41 5:30
13. Andrew Ames 48 M Fleet Feet Sports Boulder Racin 27:42 5:30
14. David Olds 49 M Los Angeles, Ca 27:43 5:30
15. Ken Ernst 49 M Compex Racing 27:50 5:32
16. Jeffrey Renlund 43 M Chaska, Mn 27:59 5:33
17. Jason Glowney 40 M Running Republic of Boulder 28:01 5:34
18. Joe Sheeran 53 M Ellensburg, Wa 28:01 5:34
19. Todd Straka 43 M Fleet Feet Sports Boulder Racin 28:01 5:34
20. Scott Winnier 43 M Pensacola, Fl 28:03 5:34
21. Daniel King 51 M Running Republic of Boulder 28:06 5:35
22. Dan Arsenault 48 M Compex Racing -B 28:12 5:36
23. Michael Hansen 44 M BSK/Running Center/FLEXR 28:24 5:39
24. Mark Steyvers 40 M Irvine, Ca 28:27 5:39
25. Jeff Hashimoto 40 M Ellensburg, Wa 28:28 5:39
26. William Moore 49 M Dallas, Tx 28:34 5:40
27. Robert Arsenault 45 M Compex Racing 28:36 5:41
28. Eric Forte 44 M Santa Barbara Athletic Assn. 28:38 5:41
29. Andy DiConti 48 M Compex Racing 28:40 5:42
30. Jim Robbins 40 M Fleet Feet Sports Boulder Racin 28:41 5:42
He ran in his teens with moderate success and then led an unhealthy lifestyle for about 20 years. This a bio from Running Times from a couple of years ago:
|Shorter Than Frank|
So, what would you guys like to know about Peter Magill?
I can answer most anything--I've known him since 1974 dating back to junior high school. We were team mates in high school. And we've amassed 1000s of miles on the road together.
He lives 4 miles away but we barely cross paths in our training (unfortunately for me).
So why is Magill so good...??
He's f-ing talented--duh!!
But let's face it--there's a lot of talented (old) guys out there.
But Pete is easily the smartest runner there is. If you haven't read any of his Runners Times articles, or viewed his training videos, and you want to improve, you should do that first...and that's just a start to understanding why Pete is so good.
He wasn't always good...Back in his youth, Pete was like a lot of us. He trusted a coach who didn't know much and just didn't train correctly. He also didn't take the most common path like a lot--most of went to college and joined a team. He didn't do that until he was in his mid-30s when he went to Glendale C.C. and placed second in state in the 5k.
For the past 10 years, Pete has found the training that works for him! And it would be the kind of training that would work for everyone, but old people (like me) tend to stick with what they've been doing for the past 20 years...it's hard to change old habits. I speak from experience.
Pete is also the most well-read student of the sport. He understands physiology, kinesiology, and all that bio-chemistry that takes place in your body. He knows exactly what work he needs to get those amazing performances out of his legs.
Pete is the most dedicated runner I know.
And as i said, Pete is also incredibly talented (but he will admit that he is not the most talented...). He was, in fact, telling me on the drive home from San Diego yesterday that Socalcush needs to stop leading and he probably would've won the race.
Pete understands masters racing...and that it's not the same as when we were young bucks.
Pete knows how to recover better than anyone his age. He doesn't race all the time like a lot of us because he's confident in his workouts and doesn't need that race performance to tell him he's in shape. He picks and chooses the right time to kick ass.
Pete is the most ethical person I know and those who like to imply that he might be cheating in some fashion obviously don't know Pete, but really, it's just plain ole jealously.
And if you want to know anything else about Mr. Magill, i might be persuaded--for a price. ;)
The great thing about Pete is he is willing to "Share the Wealth". If you haven't checked out his great training vids/blogs you should do so:
...then stop "training like an idiot" and get out there and beat him!
Eddy, so nice to have you back!
Hopefully Pete will chirp in here and give his thoughts on the following:
1) periodization for masters
2) training of 6 week blocks with race at end
3) his training programs appear universal, does he want all masters to train the same or does he have an element of individualiztion
4) how to know the correct effort on easy runs
5) expand on his comment from the video after XC champs, eg. other competitors training too hard
Body Builder? All-natural right? I have no doubt he has a a LOT of knowledge.
There are a lot of tlaented runners who know what works for them, too. If this is the formula on a guy who "let himself go for twenty years" then started dropping his best times pushing 50, I ain't buyin' it.
If he's clean, shame on me, but no way. Great Masters runners were great runners before age.
Excellent, since you're the expert here on Magill, please detail what he's on and how much it costs. Also enlighten us as to his motivation. Be sure to take into account why a guy with a son to support and not the most financially secure background would spend money on this. Seems weird for the sake of an occasional $100 masters check, but you'll no doubt explain all of this.
Then you can explain why you think Magill is an aberration instead of a too-common example of someone who showed talent when young and then pissed it away at what should have been his peak. The only remarkable thing is that, unlike most of that group, he eventually returned to the faith.
Wrong. if you look at many elite open runners (Shorter, Rodgers, ...) they couldn't compete at the same relative level as masters (age-graded) while many runners who didn't start running until in their late 30's kept improving. My buddy Dan Conway didn't start until @37 and became World 10k road champ in his early to mid 40's. As a HS runner he didn't show that much promise either.
I watched Pete throughout the race broadcast and saw him lurking like a bad debt the whole time and could sense along with him the opportunity that opened when CCM took the lead early (as in December). I was a bit surprised that Pete thne took the lead as early as he did (waited until last 400 in December), but he knows his teammates and he wanted to put GM away as well.
Incredible race savvy. The kind I would demonstrate if I had any talent ;)
The best combo of brains+dedication+talent won the day.
You, my friend, posted the results from the 2010 Club Nationals held in December
From the results, "almost a decade" older he is not.