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Haha yo (pa7bck ~$$$$$$$)
RE: The beginning 4/28/2012 10:44AM - in reply to MarathonMind Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Will anyone from the BAA give us a copy of that camera footage as part of our research project on cheaters in marathons?*****

Just give it to SOKLR or Ouch1000 or Scott



MarathonMind wrote:

The BAA official runner photo operation sets up cameras at 15k in addition to the Finish. They also do video at various points along the course.
JOKM
RE: The End. 4/28/2012 9:30PM - in reply to scotth Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

scotth wrote:

How's everyone doing? I've been away over a week, lettin' the dust settle ... just checking here how things have been. Heard somebody might've 'hacked' my name and see it's true. I didn't write the quote below (& hope I've resolved the registration issue). Touching on the theme of the imitation, I don't give a rat's ass how much 'credit' I might get in the story about Dr Litton. We've all done our part to 'out' Dr L and, frankly, if not for the tremendous work of the LR sleuths and the details they discovered, it's unlikely the story would've attracted the attention of any writer other than me. Good for all of you!!

When I share this sad tale w/friends, naturally they have questions. One of them is what many here have spent a considerable amt of time working out in recent days - the 'hows' of his deception. As I said before, we'll never know for sure because Kip isn't talking. So, rather than spend time on speculation in a story, it can be summed in a sentence or two and get on w/the more intriguing (at least it is to me) question - 'why' did he do it? This one confounds everybody I talk with. Why, why, why? Knowing 'why' puts the 'hows' in motion. He fits the model of a typical race cheat - white man in his 40s (40s when he began cheating). I'll leave you to work on that one. Sems a far more central matter to all this than, even, the wild lengths he went to cheat.

Finally, I feel for the guy. I really do. I feel for how the story will affect him & his family. His wife knows about the charade. But his kids...? Soon enough, the story will, in ways not predictable, tip Kip's life sideways and somehow touch his family. He's been offered every opportunity to tell his side - and either turned them down or trotted out his party line of lies.

Back to you pundits - I suspect you'll continue working on the 'hows' because they're easier to figure (altho, ultimately frustrating because you'll never know for sure). Any amateur psychologists out there want to give a shot @ the 'whys'?

Per Kip & his Boston # ... another one we may never figure out but, as has been mentioned by others, 3rd parties are allowed to pick up a # for others. And, finally, it was surreal to see him emerge from his dental office on Boston Monday.[quote]scotth wrote:

[quote]wicked tuna girl wrote:

simmer down oh great one, simmer down scotty:) Geez, that guy has got some serious credit issues!



Simmer down? Listen. Go back and read this thread. I'm the one who did the majority of the leg work in outing Kip Litton. I was the one in contact with him. I was the one in contact with RD's about his cheating. I was the one that was responsible for getting him DQ'd in these races. I was writing an article and then let a national writer take over. I was the one who gave the majority of the information that will be in the article to the writer. If it wasn't for me, the article, the writer, and this thread would not exist.

People here are trying to give me less credit than I deserve on the outing of Litton. Sorry, I won't stand for it. And I won't simmer down.[/quote][/quote]




First you started losing track of your aliases on this thread and now you're losing track of your personalities?

Weird.
NOt a MonKeY (updated4)
RE: The End. 4/28/2012 11:53PM - in reply to JOKM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
JOKM, if you're Kip hope you're enjoying your Saturday night dipsh*t
300% full of it
RE: The End. 4/29/2012 5:57AM - in reply to JOKM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Why in hell do JOKM and Trollist believe Kip never cheated in road races? Don't they know that an article about it is coming out in a magazine?
lost 2hrs of my life
RE: The beginning 4/29/2012 7:19AM - in reply to No libel muthaphockaz! Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Kip for President. Or at least VP. He's got the credentials!
applepie88
RE: The End. 4/29/2012 8:49AM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Knowing that this nut is wasting LR bandwidth, why is he still allowed to post? Everyone knows that he cheated, even the stupid poster, so why let him post garbage?
haha yo (exponential haha)
RE: Adults?? 4/29/2012 10:10AM - in reply to RNRunnerForever Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

RNRunnerForever wrote:

To those reading this please be aware that there is more going on than you may know. I am a nurse at the hospital where Dr Litton's child has been given just a short time to live.

Clarkston Kent and others: you should be ashamed of yourself! You may have some serious mental health issues of your own. Your attitude toward someone with a child that is terminal is both deplorable and sociopathic. Are you devoid of both human empathy and conscience?

Those in my position have an opportunity to get to know people on a level that others rarely do. Dr Litton has exhibited remarkable character in absolutely the most heart wrenching situation one could imagine. From the vast number of people that have visited, it is evident that this is a family that is deeply cared about. Did you catch that? There is a whole family involved here.

Running is also a vital part of my life but it pales in comparison to what you are doing here. Before you spread more evil, please please please get the mental health help you so dearly need.



is this true?
Hmmmmmm
RE: Adults?? 4/29/2012 11:33AM - in reply to haha yo (exponential haha) Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

haha yo (exponential haha) wrote:
is this true?


Very unlikely that the poster was who they claimed to be because they would have known better. If anyone at all has relatives especially children with serious conditions then they have my genuine hopes for the best. This however doesn't mean that rule breaking is OK.
Trollist
RE: The End. 4/29/2012 6:02PM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

cleopatra wrote:

You've been reported.

Your whacked out opinion is one thing, facts are another, not to mention your disgusting post as kids read some of this stuff. You should be ashamed of yourself...sick!!!!!!


You drag the name of an honest doctor, family man and great competitor through the mud while his son is dying in the hospital, but I'm the one who is sick? Ok, whatever. I just hope everything turns out ok for Dr. Litton and this thread is put to an end soon so he doesn't have to be bothered by all of your envious sewage.
Trollist
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 4/29/2012 10:35PM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Name calling; the last resort of a man backed into a corner. Dr. Litton didn't run the Boston Marathon because he was caring for his sick son. I'm guessing GK had to cut the course in a major way in order to achieve that time which is why he's on here much of the time dragging Dr. Litton's good name through the mud.
service center 911
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 4/30/2012 5:58AM - in reply to Trollist Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
"GK had to cut the course in a major way"

That is 100% libel and you should go after him GK, seriously.

And yes, I reported him as well.
reeeaaallllyy now
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 4/30/2012 8:01AM - in reply to Trollist Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
And your logic behind these?

http://kiplitton.blogspot.com/2011/01/deadwood-mickelson-trail-marathon-2010.html

And this?



Kip,

I am the Race Director for the Solstice Run in Northville, MI and many of my fellow running and community friends have brought to my attention the results of the 2009 Solstice Run 10K race event where you were credited with a finish time of 37:14.

I have evidence with videos and pictures taken at various stages of our 2009 10K race on the course and it is apparent you did not run the entire 10K course in the chip time recorded.

One example is a picture of yourself finishing:http://www.runmichigan.com/photogallery/09/solstice10k_062709me_window.php?31

We took note and recognized your tee shirt was dry on such a tough course & high temperature day. You & I know you easily shortcut the course.

My responsibility to the Solstice Run event is to conduct an organized, fair and professional race event with accurate finisher results. Therefore with the evidence in hand can you explain your appearance & lack of previous race times that would support such a solid 6 minute pace on our hilly 10K race event in Northville?

I am prepared to officially "Disqualify" your finish time in 2009 at the Solstice Run dependant on your response and explanation to the evidence received. Please respond by this Sunday, February 6th with your comments and feedback or I will need to make a decision then to process a Disqualification on your entry and finish-time in our 2009 Solstice Run 10K race.

Regards,

Alan Whitehead
Race Director
Solstice Run
www.solsticerun.org
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Kip (black) appears to be over the shoulder of the yellow shirt guy
http://www.runmichigan.com/photogallery/09/solstice10k_062709jb_window.php?62
Direct verbatim from an email we received:





Look at him in his long sleeve shirt behind all those people. Explanation Trollist?

There is none. His first mile would have been like molasses and he would have been flying by dozens of runners from that point to the finish...didn't happen.

Do believe he passed all of those runners along the course and during this victory, while still on the course of a 10k race, he took his long sleeve shirt off (while running), discarded it and somehow the grey shirt underneath was dry as the desert? No one saw him and he didn't show up in places where he should have. The gig is up and he knows he can no longer get away with it as MANY people in Michigan know about him as do others in other states. This is one example of many.

Watch, he suddenly won't run anymore and coincidentally have injury after injury. Big surprise.
Capt. Crunchie
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 4/30/2012 8:20AM - in reply to reeeaaallllyy now Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He's a troll and the trollist can't answer to your post or the photos as his wardrobe changes cannot be explained, by anyone. It's called cheating. Notice that he never responded to the RD. An innocent person would NOT respond that way. Sadly it was a 10k race and he couldn't even honorably run that, winning the master's division and then losing it.
podcaster
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 4/30/2012 8:28AM - in reply to Capt. Crunchie Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Don't feed him by responding. Ty:)
CH
RE: The beginning 4/30/2012 8:37AM - in reply to dukerdog Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
As a follow-up to the Kip Litton Marathon Prediction Contest, the $5 ticket was mailed this morning to the winner (dontdonate).

The ticket is for the drawing on Tuesday, May 1, 2012. The estimated jackpot is $102 million dollars. Here are the numbers that were generated by the computer:

12-20-21-26-25-33
24-25-27-30-39-03
12-20-28-46-50-25
05-14-20-28-40-18
29-38-39-46-55-22

I posted the numbers so everyone can play along, and more importantly, to confirm that the ticket was mailed out and verify that this was a legitimate operation!

Good luck!!!!
haha yo (exponential haha)
RE: The beginning 4/30/2012 6:08PM - in reply to CH Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
That article is coming. Just wait.
JOKM
RE: The beginning 4/30/2012 6:09PM - in reply to Hmmmmmm Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Hmmmmmm wrote:

[quote]JOKM wrote:
Look at the pictures of Boston 2007. Were all those runners who concealed his/her number get an "instant DQ?"
No they didn't. Try again.


Maybe they didn't, they should still have been DQd...[/quote]



You go ahead and get to work at getting all those people DQ'd. LMAO. You're quite a piece of work, Don.
lil wayne reppin the D-M-V
RE: The beginning 5/1/2012 10:06AM - in reply to JOKM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I'm sorry JOKM, but I'm not understanding the point you're trying to make. Dr Litton has cheated in numerous races and has yet to offer any sort of valid explanation
Sparticus
RE: The beginning 5/1/2012 10:17AM - in reply to lil wayne reppin the D-M-V Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I'm sorry lil wayne reppin the D-M-V, but i'm not understanding the point you're trying to make. Dr Litton has been wrongfully accused of cheating in numerous races and you have yet to offer any sort of valid explanation as to why you're accusing him.
Sporticaster
RE: The beginning 5/1/2012 12:26PM - in reply to Sparticus Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Sparticus and Trollist are the same poster. I just checked. If he can't see the pictures of the outfit changes and where he started, he's mental.
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