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Hot, Hard Facts
RE: The beginning 4/25/2012 2:14AM - in reply to Trollist Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I read a draft of the article and all I can say is that it is an incredible piece of journalism. It was incredibly thought provoking, deep, and really gets to the bottom of this whole fiasco.
you make me laugh:):):):)
RE: The beginning 4/25/2012 6:15AM - in reply to MarathonMind Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
blah, blah, blah
And the point of your post was?

The article will only enlighten the mindless. In the process it will make quite a few people some $$$, including Kip himself whether he needs the money or not. He made up races that didn't exist. I can do that, easily, and get away with for as long as he has, so what?

Figure it out? What's to figure out? Either he, with or without an accomplice got to mats in other ways that" just running" to get there. How did he do that? A bike, a car, or doing some "chip manipulation". That's it folks and what's so hard about that?

Think about it. There's a photo of him walking along the edge of the road in Boston (09' or 10') in an all black outfit. He's obviously crossing mats where he has to. While walking, or jogging at certain points, he doesn't appear to be a runner to the spectators who are watching the real runners.

His logic/goal, for the intellectually challenged, is to not be seen in photos while he's on the shoulder of the road and again to still cross mats where he has to. He thought he wouldn't show up in a photo at that point, but he was wrong and could not be happy when he saw that particular photo as it is quite compelling to say the least. Then he finishes, with the totally black outfit gone and even a different hat. Nothing magical about that at all folks.

The hard part would be to do it NOW, while people are watching and of course HE WON'T DO THAT! Honestly, there's nothing impressive about it at all. It's actually easy to do when no one is watching and I guarantee you that he wasn't the only one to cheat in Boston that year.

Whoever can't figure it out with all of the photos and fake races are what is puzzling to me. Look at the photos!!!!!!!!! Simple Simon. Don't let the Michigan credit grabbers fool you into thinking that it's some complex scheme. He cheated in a relay there, a 10 miler and a marathon (bayshore?). How? He cut the course. Mind boggling isn't it? The Vermont tech guy can't be very bright.
Haha yo (letsrun trollin 24/7)
RE: The beginning 4/25/2012 6:23AM - in reply to Hot, Hard Facts Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
What do you think Kip is thinking right now?
A) I'm screwed. That article that's coming out is wrecking me.
B) so what if an article comes out? The people in Davison don't read that magazine anyway. Unless I subscribe to it and keep it in my lobby waiting area, no one is going to know or care.
C) it's ok because if that article comes out, it's my chance at a libel lawsuit.
D) ofher - please specify
Haha yo (letsrun trollin 24/7)
RE: The beginning 4/25/2012 6:30AM - in reply to you make me laugh:):):):) Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Lol the Vermont City tech guy who you say ain't bright thought about DQing kip. I believe he's a regular poster to letsrun. Let's hear what he has to say. Doesn't he post here under the handle d2xccoach? Or is that someone else?
Enough with the Kip bullsht
RE: The beginning 4/25/2012 6:47AM - in reply to Trollist Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Trollist wrote:

[quote]Sparticus wrote:

Now, now fellow trolls, Racerdb truly doesn't care about this thread, nor this Litton saga, just as you and I don't. So how about we embrace him as one of our own and continue with our true goal...that Kip is an innocent man that has been done dirty by the cowards so named in this thread.


This isn't a laughing matter. An innocent man's name is being drug through the mud to satisfy the twisted needs of the "people" who regularly post in this thread. Let's look at it this way you scumbags; how would you feel if there was a thread on a frequently viewed internet message board calling your mother a whore and insinuating your father is one of her anonymous customers?[/quote]

If dr Litton is innocent, perhaps you should go talk to the writer who's exposing him?

If you actually believe dr Litton, chances are you arent a regular visitor to letsrun.com, nor a running enthusiast, but that you logged onto this forum solely to read up on your dentist's scandal, just to see if there's an truth to it.

Kip's friend Dan Baxley seemed to think this was all a smear, which makes sense to him since he doesn't understand distance running well enough to know that his friend is guilty and is lying.

Dr. Litton is God fearing? Or green Monkey worshipping? Maybe in certain areas of our country you can lie or cheat or steal, and say you're a Church goer and get away with stuff and people stop believing the facts.. Doesn't make any difference to me. The facts are the facts.
spade is a spade is a spade
RE: The beginning 4/25/2012 6:56AM - in reply to Haha yo (letsrun trollin 24/7) Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
If he can't figure it out, he's not that bright and if you can't, neither are you. Someone just clearly explained it. What part are you not getting?
think again spanky
RE: The beginning 4/25/2012 6:57AM - in reply to Haha yo (letsrun trollin 24/7) Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
c) doesn't apply if it's factual.
sure gal
RE: The beginning 4/25/2012 6:58AM - in reply to Hot, Hard Facts Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You read nothing. There is no draft. Nice try though, not really.
read, read, and then reread
RE: The beginning 4/25/2012 7:13AM - in reply to Haha yo (letsrun trollin 24/7) Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
who cares is he "thought" about DQing him? the poster was making the point that he was puzzled and shouldn't have been. boy oh boy, reading comprehension is just not your thing, is it?
princeton gal
RE: The beginning 4/25/2012 7:29AM - in reply to read, read, and then reread Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Do you even have a clue as to the IQ of the average person on this thread? Major hint, it isn't very high so if I were you I'd give up trying to convince them of how easy it was as they just aren't going to get it, move on and save yourself.
pjs during the day
RE: The beginning 4/25/2012 7:31AM - in reply to you make me laugh:):):):) Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
If this doesn't explain it, I don't know what will.
Sparticus
RE: The beginning 4/25/2012 8:59AM - in reply to Enough with the Kip bullsht Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Enough with the Kip bullsht wrote:

[quote]Trollist wrote:

[quote]Sparticus wrote:

Now, now fellow trolls, Racerdb truly doesn't care about this thread, nor this Litton saga, just as you and I don't. So how about we embrace him as one of our own and continue with our true goal...that Kip is an innocent man that has been done dirty by the cowards so named in this thread.


This isn't a laughing matter. An innocent man's name is being drug through the mud to satisfy the twisted needs of the "people" who regularly post in this thread. Let's look at it this way you scumbags; how would you feel if there was a thread on a frequently viewed internet message board calling your mother a whore and insinuating your father is one of her anonymous customers?[/quote]

If dr Litton is innocent, perhaps you should go talk to the writer who's exposing him?

If you actually believe dr Litton, chances are you arent a regular visitor to letsrun.com, nor a running enthusiast, but that you logged onto this forum solely to read up on your dentist's scandal, just to see if there's an truth to it.

Kip's friend Dan Baxley seemed to think this was all a smear, which makes sense to him since he doesn't understand distance running well enough to know that his friend is guilty and is lying.

Dr. Litton is God fearing? Or green Monkey worshipping? Maybe in certain areas of our country you can lie or cheat or steal, and say you're a Church goer and get away with stuff and people stop believing the facts.. Doesn't make any difference to me. The facts are the facts.[/quote]

Talk to the writer? I feel it is our duty to do that right now! And i would gladly do so if someone would just give me the means to...names, people...NAMES!

You're right, the facts are the facts which are the facts. And these facts are that the good doctor is innocent and is being harassed by anonymous cowards and keyboard warriors(and credit mongers). I can't speak for Trollist(God bless him) but i am a regular visitor to letsrun.com and know exactly the type of miserable scum that occupy this cesspool!

My friends and fighters for cause, we must stay vigilant in our purpose, never stray from our path of righteousness despite the obstacles these bigots belch in our way!

FREE KIP
Enough with the Kip bullsht
RE: The beginning 4/25/2012 9:52AM - in reply to Sparticus Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
You've gotta be Kip or a troll. There's no way anyone with half a brain would believe Kip is innocent.

You want to talk to the writer? OK, Talk to Scott Hubbard who'll probably connect you with the writer should you have anything useful to say. But since you're probably Kip or a troll fishing for information, you can suck my dck.
Enough with the Kip bullsht
RE: The beginning 4/25/2012 10:01AM - in reply to Thread reader Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
GOD BLESS THESE HONORABLE POSTERS AND LETSRUN.COM FOR HELPING TO RESTORE INTEGRITY IN THE SPORT


Thread reader wrote:

Original LetsRun detectives:
Scott Hubbard
Wayne Kursh
Ouch1000
Pat Price

Additional major contributors/detectives include several of the following:
solved before dinnertime
off course Oscar
Very Disappointed / Not Very Disappointed Anymore
Study of K.Litton Running
swedishbastive
Race detective
florida oldtimer
Kevin52
edumacator
Lone GUNMAN
Dirty South
Just Wow
Dukerdog
Kirkaz
Kippy's neighbor
GK
long sox


Kip or Kippy's Pals:
I_am_sorry
Trollist
JOKM
ActuallyThisIsTheWayItIs
TheVerdictIsIn
Dan Baxley


Fixed.
Enough with the Kip bullsht
RE: The beginning 4/25/2012 10:35AM - in reply to Sparticus Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Sparticus wrote:

You're right, the facts are the facts which are the facts. And these facts are that the good doctor is innocent and is being harassed by anonymous cowards and keyboard warriors(and credit mongers). I can't speak for Trollist(God bless him) but i am a regular visitor to letsrun.com and know exactly the type of miserable scum that occupy this cesspool!

My friends and fighters for cause, we must stay vigilant in our purpose, never stray from our path of righteousness despite the obstacles these bigots belch in our way!

FREE KIP


NO WAY ARE YOU A REGULAR VISITOR TO LETSRUN.COM!!!! I CALL BULLSHT!!!!!

A good portion of letsrun dot com visitors ran xc/track in high school and/or college. We understand the sport well enough to know when someone cheats!!!
Enough with the Kip bullsht
RE: The beginning 4/25/2012 10:43AM - in reply to Enough with the Kip bullsht Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
For Those of you saying we're stupid:

It's NOT the WHAT of Dr. Kip Litton. It's the HOW!!!

was it a bike, a car, motorcycle? We know he did it. That's the WHAT. THE QUESTION IS THE HOW!!!!!!!!

WHO: Dr. David Kipling "Kip" Litton, DDS aka Kippy aka the Kipster
WHAT: the POS cuts courses
HOW: no one really knows???
eddie grant
RE: The beginning 4/25/2012 11:08AM - in reply to MarathonMind Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

MarathonMind wrote:

The challenge for (... Singer? ) will be to make the story interesting enough for a very wide audience.


I think the cheating in the name of charity aspect is compelling enough to interest a wider audience, if that's the route the article takes.

Though, I think simply investigating what would compel an individual that - at least externally - appears a model citizen to cheat in such an elaborate and expansive way is compelling enough. If this article isn't about raising money for a sick child at all costs (or some other critical need spin), there's a lot to explore with coping with middle-age, community image, personal, social, or family expectancies, psychological disease, or something that began harmless enough but spun out of control. For all we know, this began in a similar fashion as the Seinfeld where George wears the hiking boots, appears a few inches taller, then never takes them off to keep up first impressions.

Whether it be marathons or Chutes and Ladders, competition and the degree to which some will go to win can be quite a story.

I read this thread as a runner, fascinated by the how, but this pending article should shed some light on the why, which should be equally - if not more fascinating.
RU KIDDING ME!!!!!
RE: The beginning 4/25/2012 12:01PM - in reply to Enough with the Kip bullsht Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Read the post from "you make me laugh" on the same page and it might help to relieve the excess pressure on your brain. Ummm...how else could he have done it? Every possible way is in that post, does it really mater which one it is?

You are either a hapless troll or a certified loser. Can I pick?
Yes sireeeeeeee doggie
RE: The beginning 4/25/2012 12:03PM - in reply to RU KIDDING ME!!!!! Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Too funny dude, but you are wasting your time. They don't get it and won't, even if you spell it out for them. Btw, calling them brain dead is a compliment.
Litton ain't shttin
RE: The beginning 4/25/2012 12:06PM - in reply to RU KIDDING ME!!!!! Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

RU KIDDING ME!!!!! wrote:

Read the post from "you make me laugh" on the same page and it might help to relieve the excess pressure on your brain. Ummm...how else could he have done it? Every possible way is in that post, does it really mater which one it is?

You are either a hapless troll or a certified loser. Can I pick?



Was it a bus, car, wife clothing change? What was it EXACTLY? You have to admit you'd be curious to know as well.
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