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kirkaz wrote:

OMG. JOKM just emailed me. He really is Kip.

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kirkaz wrote:

[quote]GK wrote:

Missoula 2010
Delaware 2010 (I beat him)
Boston 2010
St. Louis 2010
Shamrock Marathon
Shamrock 8k
Gasparilla 2010
Gasparilla 15k
Gasparilla 5k
RNR AZ 2010
Boston 2009
Gasparilla 2009
Gasparilla 15k
Gasparilla 5k

Can anyone top 13? I didn't realize until just now looking at his Athlinks that he picked like all the same races as me in early 2010. Sadly, the odds are good that cheated in every single one of these and there are only 2 DQ's on that list.

I've said it before. I've NEVER seen this guy! Not at the start, not during the race where he somehow passed me, and certainly not after the finish. How do you run 14 races with the same person over a year and a half, run similar times, and never see them?

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Tampa Two wrote:

I see that Dan Baxley is based in Clearwater, Florida -- certainly he is the connection to Kip's participation in the Gasparilla and other southwest Florida races.

I'm a fairly regular participant in Clearwater/Tampa area races, and I've never seen Baxley's name. I just did a search of local race results, and he doesn't show up, which supports the notion that he has no real running expertise.

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Speculation wrote:

Here are some of my general thoughts on Kip's cheating at the Boston Marathon.

1) Kip obviously changed outfits during the race. He could have simply shed the jacket and pants, but the hat change suggests that he had a clothes stashed somewhere along the course.

2)Don't think he could have biked or driven the course. It would be impossible to jump in at every 5k mat, Jump out, circle back to bike or car and get to the next point in time unless he biked the entire course. And we see from some of the photos that he is obviously not on a bike during the early stages.

3)So if the first two points are true, he would have to have someone helping him. We already know or at least suspect that his buddy Ben is in on this ruse. So it may be him or there may be others.

4)We clearly see photos of Kip at the 15k, 20k, and half and late stages of the race. This probably rules out 2 runners each doing a part of the course. Otherwise you wouldn't expect to see photos of Kip so early in the race. Plus the unusual splits make it unlikely that someone was really running the course.

Here is my theory: Kip and Ben? traveled to Boston together. They pick up the race chip and then program a second chip with the same code. They take two cars and leave one at the 5k point. Kip starts the race, hits the start and the 5k mats, hops in his car and drives to the 15k mat. After dropping Kip off at the start, Ben drives to the 10k mat. Waits until the right time and then sets it off with the 2nd chip. Kip runs from 15k to 25k. Ben sets off the 30k marker and Kip is back in the race from 35k until the finish. So overall Kip ends up running a 20' 5k, a 43' 10k and then a 30' 7k with nice 40' rests in between each section.

The only questions that this theory still leaves unanswered is why Kip appears to be going so slow in the 20k photo.

Anyone have any experience with programming chips. How easy would it be to program if you know what your doing. Or maybe he reported it lost and had a second one issued.

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GPS wrote:

Dr. Litton is staying at the Taj Boston Hotel. His training partner is also staying there.

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nothingtoseehere wrote:

Kip remains at home in Michigan. NO CHANCE he runs Boston. This thread should die a natural death.

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Lip Kitton wrote:

I have a dentist appointment with him scheduled for Monday afternoon, so yes, he's still here in Michigan.

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Hmmmmmmm wrote:

Never in the field of human running will so many race photos be studied so closely by so many.

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