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SOKLR
RE: dip s#!ttin 11/5/2011 11:14PM - in reply to Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Don't stop wrote:

No article being planned to run in ANY publications. End of story.


Not true. Please stop ruining this thread.
kirkaz
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/5/2011 11:14PM - in reply to kirkaz Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

kirkaz wrote:

This thread is beginning to become shitty now. We need to re-focus our investigation on KIPPY

Let's work together and investigate Kip's performances at Boston 2008 & 2009.

Where can we find the photos and splits? im going to start looking now...



YEAR BIB NAME AGE M/F CITY STATE COUNTRY
2004 7460 Litton, Kip 42 M Clarkston MI USA
Overall Gender Division Official Time Net Time
2731 / 16743 2451 / 10504 807 / 3877 3:39:40 3:35:09
2005 3880 Litton, Kip 43 M Davison MI USA
Overall Gender Division Official Time Net Time
2744 / 17528 2506 / 10884 760 / 4047 3:25:06 3:23:23
2007 2301 Litton, Kip 45 M Davison MI USA
Overall Gender Division Official Time Net Time
831 / 20348 791 / 12373 156 / 4520 2:58:45 2:58:45
2008 1999 Litton, Kip 46 M Davison MI USA
Overall Gender Division Official Time Net Time
1328 / 21948 1264 / 13019 294 / 4642 3:01:01 3:01:01
2009 1998 Litton, Kip 47 M Davison MI USA
Overall Gender Division Official Time Net Time
780 / 22849 740 / 13547 47 / 2536 2:54:55
2010 1811 Litton, Kip M.D. 48 M Davison MI USA
Overall Gender Division Official Time Net Time
630 / 22672 591 / 13120 44 / 2389 2:52:12
kirkaz
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/5/2011 11:15PM - in reply to kirkaz Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Does anyone know where Kip's splits can be found for Boston 2008 & Boston 2009?
runerrre
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/6/2011 3:06AM - in reply to kirkaz Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I wonder if the 2:58 at Boston 2007 was legit? Is that under suspicion or only the later ones?
Photos
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/6/2011 5:33AM - in reply to kirkaz Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Fell Runner
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/6/2011 8:40AM - in reply to Photos Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I've just looked through 50 pages of the photos taken at 30K, one photo at a time, no joy. What's the deal with virtually nobody running in their club vest and the fad for having the race number on the shorts?
Muscle Head
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/6/2011 11:04AM - in reply to Fell Runner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The Power House Gym address is 6475 Sashabaw Road. If you follow your Google street map you can see it on the SW corner.

The pace, etc is displayed on the LED console of each treadmill.

I have a couple buds that workout there too, so I spread the word to keep an eye out for him.
boston pics
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/6/2011 11:15AM - in reply to Photos Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Photos wrote:

Boston photos here:

http://jimrhoades.com/09/boston/


Here he is in 2009 at 30k

http://jimrhoades.com/09/boston/30k/image698.html
http://jimrhoades.com/09/boston/30k/image699.html

Gray shirt with black logo seems the same as the one he is wearing at 2009 Northville MI solstice run
http://kiplitton.blogspot.com/2011/10/2009-northville-mi-solstice-run-10k.html

Bib not visible
Black loose fit running pants (who runs a sub 3 in those?!)
Mirrored sunglasses
Baseball hat

Bib #1338 next to him finished in 3:13:42.
Guess Kip had some fresh legs to put 20 min on that guy over the last 12K.
Or did he jump the course again in the last 12K?
Kipped at 2010 BAA 5K
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/6/2011 11:34AM - in reply to boston pics Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Great find!
I don't know, man
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/6/2011 11:45AM - in reply to Muscle Head Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Muscle Head wrote:

The Power House Gym address is 6475 Sashabaw Road. If you follow your Google street map you can see it on the SW corner.

The pace, etc is displayed on the LED console of each treadmill.

I have a couple buds that workout there too, so I spread the word to keep an eye out for him.


At most gyms, treadmill power cords are usually run directly underneath them with no easy way to unplug them. Unless this is one of those gyms that runs the cord to a wall. I still don't believe your story.
Less not more
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/6/2011 12:04PM - in reply to boston pics Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
The more pics you find makes me believe less that he cheated, not more. Wouldn't it be better to say we searched the whole race and found NO pics?
or this...
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/6/2011 12:26PM - in reply to Less not more Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Less not more wrote:

The more pics you find makes me believe less that he cheated, not more. Wouldn't it be better to say we searched the whole race and found NO pics?


Not when he looks like THAT in the pics. THAT being, shady as hell (no bib visible, and wearing long pants when every other runner in the shot is wearing shorts).

I can't remember seeing him crossing any finish line in pants like that, but is often wearing them on the course. Poor guy, it must take him nearly 35km into a race before he warms up enough to ditch the extra layers. Lol.
SOKLR
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/6/2011 12:57PM - in reply to Less not more Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Guys, Check the bottom of this link. I added just some extra pics of Kip Litton at the BAA 5K 2010, the classic one where he came across the finish in 17:17 despite a 4:04 start. (Nothing really new here, just a few more pics I found of Kip that I found by looking up some of the 21min 5K'ers he was running stride for stride with ...)
http://kiplitton.blogspot.com/2011/01/more-photos-discovered-of-kip-boston.html
SOKLR
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/6/2011 1:02PM - in reply to SOKLR Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
As you can see in those BAA 2010 5k pics just posted at the bottom of the page, it looks like Kip pulls up the blue windbreaker enough so the bib number is showing. It also might end up helpful later on just to have these pics for comparison of things
mommy mommy
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/6/2011 1:04PM - in reply to runerrre Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
http://jimrhoades.com/07/boston/20m/index.html

Kip at the 20 mile 2007

Bottom corner of page 30. I cannot find results with bib numbers to check where he was relative to his finish time.
SOKLR
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/6/2011 1:07PM - in reply to mommy mommy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

mommy mommy wrote:

http://jimrhoades.com/07/boston/20m/index.html

Kip at the 20 mile 2007

Bottom corner of page 30. I cannot find results with bib numbers to check where he was relative to his finish time.


Great find. Thank you.

Someone mentioned to me that one can email the BAA and get race splits sent to you on a card for past Boston Marathons. Would it be possible to check on this for Kip at Boston 2007-2009?
boston pics
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/6/2011 1:20PM - in reply to mommy mommy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Go here to find finish times 2001-2010 (no splits though)
http://www.baa.org/races/boston-marathon/results-commentary/marathon-results.aspx
enter bib number at bottom

#2426 finished in 3:04:33
Kip "finished" in 2:58:45
Florida Midtimer
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/6/2011 3:37PM - in reply to boston pics Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
fwiw:

Boston 2009 nearby runners:

1572 - 3:05:20
2571 - 3:30:23
3261 - 3:04:57

Boston 2007

2737 - 2:57:46
2426 - 3:04:53

The picture with sweatpants on in the middle of a non-freezing marathon is odd to say the least. Number hidden and not in plain view.

Great picture of the woman 4422 in the 5K gritting her teeth and gutting it out to outrun the person of interest at the tape as she finished her 21 min 5K. The "reveal" at the 5K is also consistent with many other photos.

Also good close up of red bandada - cant recall if that was part of other picture sequences involving the "second runner" theory.
113
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/6/2011 4:26PM - in reply to mommy mommy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

mommy mommy wrote:

http://jimrhoades.com/07/boston/20m/index.html

Kip at the 20 mile 2007

Bottom corner of page 30. I cannot find results with bib numbers to check where he was relative to his finish time.


Serious question: Are there any "official" race photos in which Kip is not looking down? He is always looking straight ahead at the end of races. But anything photographed from the middle of the race shows him absolutely staring at his shoes. Obviously he knows he is at risk of disqualification every time he steps on the course... I'm just not sure how he imagines that not looking at the cameras is going to matter one way or the other.
Scott Olsen of Occupy Oakland
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread 11/6/2011 4:29PM - in reply to Great news folks! Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
2500? Unbelievable!
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