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Giddy
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/3/2011 3:31PM - in reply to JOKM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Why does anyone dedicate so much time to anything; running, video games, sluething on the internet... etc...

In this case, I'd say it started out as pure fascination and ended with entertainment and an actual desire to bust a cheater... and why not try to see something through after so much time has been spent sleuthing!

The problem here is that Kips cheating is insulting. It insults people who legitimately ran races, and it undermines the work and training that went into those performances.

I won't lie, I could care less about Kip Litton and his cutting courses. He doesn't affect me what so ever. What does bother me is that he knocks someone out of the most coveted marathon in the world.

It's the holy grail of American Road racing. While there are many of us that can qualify without killing ourselves, there's a larger part of the running community who's sole goal is to qualify for that one race... the thought of some guy working his ass off to be the first guy out because a douche like Kip Litton cheating makes me think he's getting what he deserves...

I find this thread magnetic. It's entertaining. It's filled with conspiracy theories, hilarity, sadness, anger... it's got all the aspects of a made for TV movie...

As far as "The Article" that will most likely never come out, unless there is some form of remorseful apology, it will be nothing more than a condensed version of the thread making most of this worthless anyway... but at least it's entertaining.

Kip Litton... If you actually do read this, I hope the rest of your life doesn't revolve around the self gratification of accomplishments that you haven't earned. That's just a sad life. It's called integrity, get some.
JOKM
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/3/2011 3:36PM - in reply to Skeptic of it all Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Skeptic of it all wrote:

I'm new to the thread but have suggested this many pages ago. SOKLR is Kip... He has the ego and the cleptomania to do something like that. He wants the attention, if he makes up race results why not an alias on letsrun?



I've got to agree with you on that point. Anyone else notice that whenever this thread dies and slips off the first or second page that SOKLR gets it bttt by posting something inane like "I just added a sentence to my website on Kip." Ole Kipper wants to stay in the limelight.
Study of K.Litton Running
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/3/2011 3:38PM - in reply to Giddy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Giddy wrote:


As far as "The Article" that will most likely never come out, unless there is some form of remorseful apology, it will be nothing more than a condensed version of the thread making most of this worthless anyway... but at least it's entertaining.


NOT TRUE .....There IS an article coming out in a BIG magazine - I can assure you of this...
JOKM
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/3/2011 3:46PM - in reply to Study of K.Litton Running Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Study of K.Litton Running wrote:

[quote]Giddy wrote:


As far as "The Article" that will most likely never come out, unless there is some form of remorseful apology, it will be nothing more than a condensed version of the thread making most of this worthless anyway... but at least it's entertaining.


NOT TRUE .....There IS an article coming out in a BIG magazine - I can assure you of this...[/quote]




OK Kipper. Name the magazine, the writer, and when it is going to come out.
Giddy
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/3/2011 3:48PM - in reply to Study of K.Litton Running Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Whatever...

It doesn't make a difference. As entertaining as this thread has been, all new posts are generally one of 3 common denominators...

1. Conspiracy theory on how Kip cheats.
2. An argument about "The Article" that sounds more like Joseph smith defending his reading of the golden plates.
3. That everyone and everyone is probably Kip.

At some point, which is pretty much rapidly approaching, this story is old.
Junk Master
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/3/2011 3:50PM - in reply to JOKM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Let me submit that what makes this such a fascinating story is precisely the disconnect between all the FOKL(friends of KipLitton), who insist he's a great guy and the undisputed fact he's a complete WACK JOB who compulsively cheated in races with no discernable motive besides puffing up his own ego.

If there were more of a motive, say, if he had planned to embezzle charity funds, or was planning a book about running 50 sub 3 marathons as a master in 50 states, the story wouldn't have the interest and legs it does.

I also continue to maintain that once the full story of Kip Litton comes to light, not even his closest friends will continue to hold up his supposed character and virtue as a shield to explain away his fraudulent running exploits.

This is just the tip of the iceberg.

For those supporters in denial let me suggest you ask him about a non-running incident-- his short "hiatus" from dental school.
Study of K.Litton Running
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/3/2011 3:54PM - in reply to JOKM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

JOKM wrote:

[quote]Study of K.Litton Running wrote:

[quote]Giddy wrote:


As far as "The Article" that will most likely never come out, unless there is some form of remorseful apology, it will be nothing more than a condensed version of the thread making most of this worthless anyway... but at least it's entertaining.


NOT TRUE .....There IS an article coming out in a BIG magazine - I can assure you of this...[/quote]




OK Kipper. Name the magazine, the writer, and when it is going to come out.[/quote]


I, SOKLR, am not Kipper. I am a recent college grad and former NCAA runner. I've been visiting letsrun.com for years, unlike Kipper.

Why am I not naming the magazine and writer? I'm sooo tempted to, but Scott Hubbard and Ouch1000 told me to wait. The only clue we're giving is >1million circulation in 2009.
Junk Master
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/3/2011 3:55PM - in reply to JOKM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Let me submit that what makes this such a fascinating story is precisely the disconnect between all the FOKL(friends of KipLitton), who insist he's a great guy and the undisputed fact he's a complete WACK JOB who compulsively cheated in races with no discernable motive besides puffing up his own ego.

If there were more of a motive, say, if he had planned to embezzle charity funds, or was planning a book about running 50 sub 3 marathons as a master in 50 states, the story wouldn't have the interest and legs it does.

I also continue to maintain that once the full story of Kip Litton comes to light, not even his closest friends will continue to hold up his supposed character and virtue as a shield to explain away his fraudulent running exploits.

This is just the tip of the iceberg.

For those supporters in denial let me suggest you ask him about a non-running incident-- his short "hiatus" from dental school.
JOKM
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/3/2011 4:08PM - in reply to Study of K.Litton Running Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Study of K.Litton Running wrote:

[quote]JOKM wrote:

[quote]Study of K.Litton Running wrote:

[quote]Giddy wrote:


As far as "The Article" that will most likely never come out, unless there is some form of remorseful apology, it will be nothing more than a condensed version of the thread making most of this worthless anyway... but at least it's entertaining.


NOT TRUE .....There IS an article coming out in a BIG magazine - I can assure you of this...[/quote]




OK Kipper. Name the magazine, the writer, and when it is going to come out.[/quote]


I, SOKLR, am not Kipper. I am a recent college grad and former NCAA runner. I've been visiting letsrun.com for years, unlike Kipper.

Why am I not naming the magazine and writer? I'm sooo tempted to, but Scott Hubbard and Ouch1000 told me to wait. The only clue we're giving is >1million circulation in 2009.[/quote]



Who are they? Your daddies? Are you not your own man? You're a rebel - a guy who started a website about some stranger you never met. And now you can't divulge information because these guys said not too. Time to man up.

Or, perhaps Kip, there is no article and never was an article.
Skeptic of it all
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/3/2011 4:17PM - in reply to doubler Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I think joining this thread 2-3 days ago is considered new... which was a few pages ago.

I'm guessing 2-3 people are on this thread posing as different people which is probably why the thread was banned in the first place.
scotth
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/3/2011 4:17PM - in reply to JOKM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

JOKM wrote:




Why am I not naming the magazine and writer? I'm sooo tempted to, but Scott Hubbard and Ouch1000 told me to wait. The only clue we're giving is >1million circulation in 2009.




Who are they? Your daddies? Are you not your own man? You're a rebel - a guy who started a website about some stranger you never met. And now you can't divulge information because these guys said not too. Time to man up.

Or, perhaps Kip, there is no article and never was an article.[/quote]

Silly boy.
JOKM
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/3/2011 4:23PM - in reply to scotth Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

scotth wrote:

[quote]JOKM wrote:




Why am I not naming the magazine and writer? I'm sooo tempted to, but Scott Hubbard and Ouch1000 told me to wait. The only clue we're giving is >1million circulation in 2009.




Who are they? Your daddies? Are you not your own man? You're a rebel - a guy who started a website about some stranger you never met. And now you can't divulge information because these guys said not too. Time to man up.

Or, perhaps Kip, there is no article and never was an article.[/quote]

Silly boy.[/quote]



I guess SOKLR called his dad. LOL
one post
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/3/2011 4:37PM - in reply to JOKM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
What would naming the magazine do. Would you believe then? I mean really?

The main reason for the article hold up is that the author wants to interview Kip, or at least that was my understanding as of early last month.

The article really doesn't change much though, it won't stop Kip from cheating.


There is more then one person working on this, Study of Kip Litton Running & blog is just the most public of individuals. Some of the stuff that is going on regarding his cheating isn't made public on this thread.

This posting isn't some smoke and mirrors attempt either.
Unbeliever
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/3/2011 4:53PM - in reply to one post Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
There is no article, folks. Can't you see how you are being led on? One of the people claiming inside knowledge of the article was already busted earlier on this thread using an alias and claiming he was the writer. Then suddenly after he was busted he stated that he was suddenly not longer writing the article, but had handed it off to someone else. Then a writer for a major - unnamed, of course - magazine was going to write it, but only if Kip contributes. The saga will continue. We'll just have to wait for the next excuse.

As someone mentioned earlier, an article will really add nothing to this situation.
Fell Runner
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/3/2011 4:56PM - in reply to scotth Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
One of the eye-openers for me in this thread is how apparently gullible that seemingly intelligent people are about who they pay attention to on an anonymous internet forum. Many people seem unable to spot a poster with a transparently obvious agenda such as JOKM and who that probably is and how easy it is for him to sockpuppet and give the impression that people agree with him.
So Hi Kip and your sockpuppets, any chance of an explanation of the very suspicious number of DQs yet? Just explaining the Delaware Marathon race director's comments would be a start
http://races2run.blogspot.com/2010/08/world-record-runkip-litton.html

Or is he Kip as well ?
time to clean the thread again
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/3/2011 5:22PM - in reply to Giddy Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Giddy wrote:

Whatever...

It doesn't make a difference. As entertaining as this thread has been, all new posts are generally one of 3 common denominators...

1. Conspiracy theory on how Kip cheats.
2. An argument about "The Article" that sounds more like Joseph smith defending his reading of the golden plates.
3. That everyone and everyone is probably Kip.

At some point, which is pretty much rapidly approaching, this story is old.


Agreed. Maybe the mods can clean it up again, and keep it to #1. Kip cheats; here's evidence; discuss how he does it.

#2. The Article thing is just BS. ScottH got caught in his trolling and is trying to keep the act going. Delete all posts related to his game. He's just another 430miler-type of troll.

#3. The story's very old now. The everyone-is-Kip angle will dissipate on its own.
sorry to break the news
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/3/2011 5:23PM - in reply to Unbeliever Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Unbeliever wrote:

As someone mentioned earlier, an article will really add nothing to this situation.


Just like your post adds nothing.

You guys posting recently are really adding nothing but clutter. Please stop.
I'm an idiot like JOKer
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/3/2011 5:25PM - in reply to Fell Runner Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Fell Runner wrote:

Just explaining the Delaware Marathon race director's comments would be a start
http://races2run.blogspot.com/2010/08/world-record-runkip-litton.html

Or is he Kip as well ?


The two blog postings preceeding the above are:

http://races2run.blogspot.com/2010/08/another-rosie-ruiz.html

http://races2run.blogspot.com/2010/08/getting-closer.html
Fell Runner
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/3/2011 5:34PM - in reply to I'm an idiot like JOKer Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

I'm an idiot like JOKer wrote:
The two blog postings preceeding the above are:

http://races2run.blogspot.com/2010/08/another-rosie-ruiz.html

http://races2run.blogspot.com/2010/08/getting-closer.html


Excellent find, I hadn't seen them, so Kip the apparently god-fearing man, have you heard the one that goes "Thou shalt not bear false witness" ?

To the person going on about the "everyone is Kip" thing, no, anyone defending him, attacking the motives behind those who have done the most work in uncovering him and spreading FUD is probably him. The people obsessing about the article are just a bit stupid.
Unbeliever
RE: Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but 1 and only 1 thread 11/3/2011 5:40PM - in reply to sorry to break the news Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

sorry to break the news wrote:

[quote]Unbeliever wrote:

As someone mentioned earlier, an article will really add nothing to this situation.


Just like your post adds nothing.

You guys posting recently are really adding nothing but clutter. Please stop.[/quote]


Thanks for contributing.
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