What is the fastest high school cross country 5k ever?

mi state course wrote:

no in mich wrote:

I've run in the state meet twice. It's 3 miles not 5k.

So have I. You're a moron.

Do either of you guys have evidence to support your assertions?

Thank you, God! wrote:

mi state course wrote:

So have I. You're a moron.

Do either of you guys have evidence to support your assertions?

I've actually run the last five state meets here. It is 3 miles, not 5k.

Bombastic Magniloquence in MI wrote:

Thank you, God! wrote:

Do either of you guys have evidence to support your assertions?

I've actually run the last five state meets here. It is 3 miles, not 5k.

From a 2011 article:

The Michigan High School Athletic Association’s Lower Peninsula Cross Country Finals will be held at MIS on Saturday, with thousands of the state’s top high school boys and girls cross country runners hitting the track for the 16th straight year. With thousands of competitors, fans and their families converging on MIS, the MHSAA Cross Country Finals has grown into another major racing event for the Irish Hills track.

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Although the competitors don’t race on the actual two-mile MIS oval, the 3.1-mile course (5K) begins in the infield, continues throughout the back woods, campgrounds and parking lots just east of the track and finishes in the tri-oval near the actual start/finish line used for NASCAR races.

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2016 results display a 3 mile split time and a finish time.

Ritz's 14:10 is, indeed, the fastest hs 5k xc time ever run,

If you were to include converted 3 mile times, then Craig Virgin's 13:50.6 Detweiller Park CR at the 1972 IL state champs equates to roughly 14:20 for 5k . . . just as an interesting comparison.

XCGuy wrote:

Ritz's 14:10 is, indeed, the fastest hs 5k xc time ever run,

If you were to include converted 3 mile times, then Craig Virgin's 13:50.6 Detweiller Park CR at the 1972 IL state champs equates to roughly 14:20 for 5k . . . just as an interesting comparison.

Also interesting is the list of people who couldn't break Virgin's record.

A 2011 "article" from where? 4chan? I've run it 5 times. It's 3 miles.

From Milesplit:

1 14:10.40

Dathan Ritzenhein

MI Rockford

2001

MHSAA State Championships LP 1st

Nov 4, 2000

2 14:18.70

Edward Cheserek

NJ St. Benedict's Prep

2013

Essex County Championships 1st

Oct 26, 2012

3 14:20.80

Andrew Hunter

VA Loudoun Valley

2016

Third Battle Invitational 1st

Oct 17, 2015

4 14:24.00

German Fernandez

OK Riverbank High School (SJ)

2008

CIF State Cross Country Championships 1st

Nov 24, 2007

5 14:27.25

Bernie Montoya

AZ Cibola High School

2013

Division 1 Section 1 1st

Oct 26, 2012

6 14:28.00

Sean McGorty

VA Chantilly

2013

Foot Locker South Regional 1st

Nov 24, 2012

7 14:31.70

Tanner Anderson

WA North Central High School

2015

WIAA State Championship 1st

Nov 8, 2014

8 14:32.20

Brodey Hasty

TN BrentwoodH High School

2018

Great American Cross Country Festival 1st

Sep 30, 2016 - Oct 1, 2016

9 14:32.40

David Principe Jr.

RI La Salle Academy

2017

Great American Cross Country Festival 2nd

Sep 30, 2016 - Oct 1, 2016

10 14:32.50

Conner Mantz

UT Sky View

2015

Utah Region 5 XC Championships 1st

Oct 16, 2013

10 14:32.50

Phillip Rocha

CA Arcadia High School (SS)

2016

Stanford Invitational 1st

Sep 26, 2015

12 14:32.70

Matthew Maton

OR Summit

2015

George Fox Cross Country Classic 1st

Oct 12, 2013

13 14:33.85

Donald Sage

CA York High School

2000

Foot Locker Nationals 2nd

Dec 11, 1999

14 14:34.00

Craig Lutz

TX Marcus

2011

Foot Locker South Regional 1st

Nov 28, 2009

15 14:34.10

Scott MacPherson

TX Plano Senior HS

2005

Texas X-C State Championship 1st

Nov 13, 2004

16 14:34.28

Ian Dobson

OR Klamath Union

2001

Foot Locker Nationals 3rd

Dec 11, 1999

17 14:35.00

Curtis Eckstein

IN Oldenburg Academy

2017

IHSAA Cross Country Semi-State 2 - Shelbyville 1st

Oct 22, 2016

18 14:35.70

Eric Reynolds

CA Camarillo High School (SS)

1983

Kinney Cross Country Championships 1st

Dec 16, 1982

19 14:36.00

Aaron Templeton

TN Hardin Valley Academy

2014

Foot Locker South Regional 1st

Nov 30, 2013

20 14:36.01

Bryan Guijarro

CA Knight High School (SS)

2012

Golden League Finals 1st

Nov 3, 2011

21 14:36.20

Futsum Zienasellassie

IN North Central High School (Indianapolis)

2012

Flashrock Invitational 1st

Sep 17, 2011

22 14:36.24

Josh Rohatinsky

UT Provo

2000

Foot Locker Nationals 4th

Dec 11, 1999

23 14:37.00

Ammar Moussa

CA Arcadia High School (SS)

2011

Stanford Invitational 1st

Sep 25, 2010

23 14:37.00

Craig Nowak

TX Cypress Woods

2012

Foot Locker South Regional 1st

Nov 26, 2011

25 14:38.00

Ahmed Bile

VA Annandale

2012

Foot Locker South Regional 2nd

Nov 26, 2011

The English invented modern cross-country racing and they don't compare times from different courses. Think about it.

Doesn't matter at all to me, but five minutes of research turned up an article from the host site stating that the course is 5K, and the 2016 official results display three separate mile split times and a slower final time.

Place No. Name School Gr Mile1 Mile2 Mile3 Time

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1 206 Riad Rababeh Dearborn 12 4:48 4:53 5:16 15:24.8

2 4 Mitchell Day Alpena 12 4:48 4:53 5:25 15:40.8

3 191 Harrison Grzymkowski White Lake Lakeland 10 4:57 5:08 5:20 15:51.4

4 94 Michael Jarvis Lake Orion 12 4:58 5:14 5:13 15:52.2

5 221 Tyler McCartney Grand Ledge 12 5:02 5:07 5:16 15:52.6

6 243 Matt Schram Rochester Adams 12 4:50 5:08 5:27 15:54.4

Bombastic Magniloquence in MI wrote:

Thank you, God! wrote:

Do either of you guys have evidence to support your assertions?

I've actually run the last five state meets here. It is 3 miles, not 5k.

It's amazing that you ran @ State 5 times.

That in itself must be a record in Michigan.

.....In the meantime, why don't you spend your sixth year studying:

Why does everyone always seem to think that just because a meet is a state championship that it "can't possibly be short." Just because they claim that the course is a particular distance, does not mean that the course is actually that distance. Nearly all cross country courses are shorter than the stated distance. There are probably some that are correct or a little long, but the vast majority are short. It doesn't really matter since it is cross country but people should not get so uptight about people reporting that a course is short because it usually is short!

Ritz 14:10 in cross country with only high school kids, second is Ryan Schoppe from Texas 14:14 at the state meet in 2019.

Sahlman beat it