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Eddy did not go out there and steal in a direct way....by doping, however, a few people might have missed their chance for prize money. Nothing more than that. Again, he did not deliberately steal. For Eddy, everything was about running faster and improving his times, and being competitive, even in his early forties. The European psyche is more flexible, because we (Europeans) recognize that people are fallible and imperfect. That does not prevent one from being, on the whole, decent human beings. So it is with Eddy, who has done a lot for the sport, but people simply focus on the small time frame (2001 - 2004) when he doped....a small part of an otherwise long and honorable career. He never set out to steal deliberately, but others may have lost some money when Eddy placed ahead of them in races. He is certainly no career criminal. Do you think hundreds of athletes from all corners of the world would have elected domicile in the Hellebuyck house if that had been the case? Unlikely. If someone is really a villain, people will 'vote with their feet' and escape, which was never the case, as far as we know. One has to listen to Plaatjes, a trained and certified physical therapist and trainer to understand the talent Eddy possessed. Plaatjes feels that Eddy was far more talented than he (Plaatjes) ever was, despite the fact that Plaatjes won a World Champ. gold in the marathon. Plaatjes claims that Eddy was 'near perfect' in build for the marathon. When you get that from a world champion, one has to acknowledge that as being the voice of reason. Eddy would have still run well under 2.20 as a master without doping - there is no doubt about that. Ghost in Saudi. www.kfupm.edu.sa, apply today. |
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"A few?" ... "might?" Do you proofread what you write ghost? Either you were being careless with your choice of words, or you are delusional. |
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Go get 'em RW. Ghost, you are, far and away, the most resolute troll I've ever seen on LR.com. Are you a one trick pony or could you join the fray on all those nutty patriotic threads currently spreading like a virus on the boards? Maybe you're already there? Nudge, nudge, wink, wink... |
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And when did he tell you that? Oh wait, you just pretend to be on a buddy-buddy relationship with him but are really just making it up as you go along. Do you have a poster of him on your wall you carry on conversations with? It's not a hard connection to make: he wanted to run faster so he could place higher in races and win more money. That money is money that was rightfully earned by others who weren't cheating. Since Eddy got it instead of them, he stole it. Remember, Eddy is very business savvy and was spending that money on EPO so that he could make even more money in stolen prize cash.
Get back to me when Eddy returns the stolen prize money and then we'll talk about decent human beings.
Newsflash! When you decide to cheat, you tarnish everything else you have accomplished in the sport. That is not a novel concept and any cheater who claims they weren't aware of those consequences is either lying or a complete idiot. Surely you aren't suggesting Eddy is a complete idiot, are you?
Yes he did, see above. Remember Eddy is very business savvy and so was deliberately looking to steal money.
So when someone cheats for at least three years and then lies about it for another six, they aren't a career criminal? How many more years should he have cheated and lied for you to consider it a career sort of thing?
Guess what, another consequence of cheating is that you have no grounds to be able to say "coulda, woulda, shoulda" if one hadn't been doping. You've got nothing to stand on to say what he could have run as a master without cheating, so why do you pretend you do? If Eddy could have done that, then he should have actually, you know, done it and not resorted to cheating - there is no doubt about that. |
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I would like you to look into ghost. He is practically aiding and abetting here. I think he is either a supplier of PEDs or knows so many dirty athletes he is conditioned to make excuses for them. Is there any way to track him down and hold his feet to the fire on the issues of PEDs?
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He's posted his name many times. He's Christophe Moulton, not to be confused with the Canadian guy with a near identical name who runs tnfnorth. |