D1 XC post-PreNats.....who are your top 10 teams/individuals now?

Individual: Chelanga

Team - Oklahoma State. Stanford will be close this year, but they still won't get it right.

Women - Villanova.

Wow....lots of repeaters this year.

Stanford will take OSU. They won't make the same mistake twice, and they didn't graduate anyone anyways. Agree with the other two though.

Stanford

Oregon

Oklahoma State

Wisconsin

Oklahoma

Arkansas

Indiana

Colorado

Iona

Portland

Van Dalens from Stonybrook ... assuming they're twins?? Saw they're from New Zealand. I didn't even know Stonybrook College existed... but I think at least Lucy can be put in there for mention for the individual title.....

Women: Reid

Team: Villanova

Men: Chelanga

Team: Stanford

Women:

1. Reid

2. Van Dalen (Lucy)

3. Kimaiyo

4. Hasay

5. Trembly, Kroeger or Banfich

1. Villanova

2. Oregon

3. Florida State

4. Arizona

5. Colorado

Men:

1. Derrick (looked soo smooth and effortless)

2. Chelanga (didn't look too sharp yesterday)

3. Heath

4. Fernandez or Lowe

5. Puskedra or Centrowitz

1. Stanford

2. OK State

3. Oregon

4. Wisconsin

5. not sure?

well...... I agree on some points, but what about Texas Tech on the women??

Mens:

Title Contenders

1.OSU

2. Stanford

3.Oregon

Podium fillers:

5.Iona

6.Portland (osoro held out Prenats...assuming he's healthy he'd replace a 24:45 with a ~23:45)

Best of the rest

Wiscon

Indiana

Ark

Colorado

Oklahoma

FSU

NAU?

Derrick could have beaten Sammy yesterday, but just like last year, Sammy will take NC's

Banfich looked pretty fresh until the last 400 yesterday, and is improving rapidly. Could upset for the title.

NAU will be top 3 if they get Chipangama back.

agree about NAU...yeah i didn't know where to place them....who else was missing top runners this weekend who will most likely be back for Nats?

What happened to the Florida women?

Looks like Browning had a bad race but they had so much potential with that freshmen class. 19th in their race at pre-nationals with all that talent?

PapaROTC wrote:

Derrick could have beaten Sammy yesterday, but just like last year, Sammy will take NC's

I doubt Derrick could beat him yesterday or ANY day. The only way Chelenga gets beaten is if he has not trained since last spring. The man just about ran 27 flat for 10k in the spring. No way Derrick picked up that kind of shape already.

And If anything, Chelenga will be in 26:XX shape come nationals since he ran that 10k months ago.

oh yeah...

my bet: RYAN HILL from NC STATE for 8th place at nationals!

doubtful wrote:

PapaROTC wrote:

Derrick could have beaten Sammy yesterday, but just like last year, Sammy will take NC's

I doubt Derrick could beat him yesterday or ANY day. The only way Chelenga gets beaten is

>>>>if he has not trained since last spring<<<<<<.

After looking at Pre Nats results I'd have to say right now we're looking at:

1. Chelanga

2. Derrick

3. Robinson

4. McNeil

5. Fernandez

Derrick was the only collegiate runner to beat chelanga in a xc race last year. So I'd say that he can indeed beat chelanga on certain days.

Though I doubt he'll get him at nats. Chelanga usually impresses in his big events; there's also the possibility of him going sub-27 this spring in the 10k... So Derrick would have to have a monsterstopping race to take him down.

well.......... wrote:

Men:

1. Derrick (looked soo smooth and effortless)

2. Chelanga (didn't look too sharp yesterday)

3. Heath

4. Fernandez or Lowe

5. Puskedra or Centrowitz

1. Stanford

2. OK State

3. Oregon

4. Wisconsin

5. not sure?

Just curious, why are you picking Wisconsin ahead of Indiana? I'm not suggesting Indiana will be Top 5, but Wisco isn't even the best team in the Big Ten right now.

Good Question W:Because Darling finished first for Wisconsin and a couple seconds out of first in a quick time at Dillenger and looked good (not spent doing so). Throw him in to the Invite and have Wisconsin race a little smarter (they lead into the wind a lot of the windy addidas Invite and were not as fresh for the slam-bang finish) and they will look a lot better. In addition Connor also looked better running part of the group as well.However, Indiana's one 'under-achiever' from the top guys look good at Chile Pepper (first Indiana runner), so they are more solid as well. Adjusting the results for these factors would move Connor up a bit from 18, throw Darling in the top 5-10 easily and move Indiana's 20 points for fifth up to the top 10 (obviously others move down some, but mainly the guys from other teams). This would make it an even tighter race with a slight advantage to Wisconsin (18->15, high #5 runner to top 5, minor readjustments for racing tactics, and 20 to 10 for Indiana and it becomes a 30-something each team battle). This makes it look like there is even less hope for anyone else at Big Tens than before.However, there are some questions like NAU and Iona (top runner/runners not in the race and not all of them are injured).

Whoozer wrote:

well.......... wrote:

Men:

1. Derrick (looked soo smooth and effortless)

2. Chelanga (didn't look too sharp yesterday)

3. Heath

4. Fernandez or Lowe

5. Puskedra or Centrowitz

1. Stanford

2. OK State

3. Oregon

4. Wisconsin/Indiana

5. not sure?

Just curious, why are you picking Wisconsin ahead of Indiana? I'm not suggesting Indiana will be Top 5, but Wisco isn't even the best team in the Big Ten right now.