When and where will America fight its next war?

When - well not as quick as if Bush was in charge

Where. Just pick any country with a 3rd world defence system

flagsrus wrote:

Iran after they nuke someone.

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The next war will be Iran because it will not be due to Iran's "nuking someone". Seeing as how Iran has no nukes, has never attacked anyone, and has threatened nobody. It will be because the Zionists have put Iran next on the hit list for the US military

Anyone that watches the "news" can see it's going to be Iran. Plus it's one of the last countries the US does not occupy or control in the middle east.

A splendid little war would make a great October surprise as Democrats grasp for straws to hang onto Congress.

How about an outrage in the Sudan committed by Arab slave traders (not hard to find) followed by a quick reprisal by President Obama to defend Dinka tribesman? He proves his bonafides as being not favorable to Muslim terrorists, shows himself to be as tough as Bush, and fulfills a liberal wet dream by intervening in Sudan, all in one fell swoop.

google Hezbollah

Some nerd wrote:

Will be a three way war between America, China and India for world supremacy.

Come off it - India can’t even organise a mickey-mouse, second-rate sporting event.

Conundrum wrote:

Very true but after the next election, the Republicans might be the Federal government.

Coach D wrote:

Right now it looks more like tea party insurgents against the Republican Party.

The Tea Party may be throwing that into question. I had thought that 2010 was going to go like 1994, with Republicans putting constraints on Democratic spending (and vice versa for Republican desires to throw money at the military), Obama blocks any de-regulation binge, the stock market takes off, and both Obama and Republicans ride off to reelection in 2012.

I think the Tea Party is throwing that into question. They have thrown out a number of established Republicans in the primaries, but polls are showing them to be waaay to far out into nutcase land for average (centerist-leaning) voters.

The Tea Party may financed by Koch Industries, but they may be providing exactly what the Kochs don't want.

666suportsthetroops wrote:

The important question is whether our troops will have access to 666 Energy in the field.

hahah POD

I love it how everybody is treating this like a Diamond league event. India = Galen Rupp. A Bunch of hype but he's reached plateau.

Suprised no one said this yet but Yemen is next. It's actually already begun...

awesomeness... wrote:

Suprised no one said this yet but Yemen is next. It's actually already begun...

I'm surprised there has not been more discussion about China. Seems like there are a bunch of conservatives on this board who are concerned about the downfall of America and the rise of China and the struggle for resources.

Haha for a second I thought this said "When and where will Amanda fight its next war?"

TCB wrote:

I'm surprised there has not been more discussion about China. Seems like there are a bunch of conservatives on this board who are concerned about the downfall of America and the rise of China and the struggle for resources.

China? No way in hell is the US going to take on China. Bullies only pick on the little guys, not on other bullies.

9/20/10

Speaking today at the American Enterprise Institute, Senator Lindsey Graham (R – SC) declared that the United States must prepare to launch a military attack on Iran, but predicted that absolute victory including a regime changing wouldn’t require a single ground soldier.

“The United States should have in mind the goal of changing the regime,” Graham declared, “not by invading but by launching a military strike by air and sea.” The attack, he insisted, would have the duel aims of destroying Iran’s civilian nuclear program and toppling the government.

Sen. Graham is one of a growing number of US officials calling for a military attack on Iran, even as intelligence officials concede that Iran hasn’t made any decision to attempt to acquire nuclear weapons and as IAEA reports continue to verify the non-diversion of the civilian program toward any military use.

from Pat Buchanan:

High among the blunders of history was the “blank cheque” Kaiser Wilhelm gave Vienna, after the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, to deal with the Serbs as they saw fit.

Five weeks later, Vienna cashed the check and declared war, after Belgrade refused to submit to all 10 demands of an ultimatum. Russia mobilized; Germany and France followed. And war came, the bloodiest in all of European history, with 9 million soldiers in their graves.

Since June 1914, a “blank check” given by one nation to another for war has been regarded as strategic folly.

Thus it is startling to learn 47 House Republicans just signed on to H.R. 1553 declaring unequivocal “support for Israel’s right to use all means necessary to confront and eliminate nuclear threats posed by Iran … including the use of military force.”

These Republicans have just given Tel Aviv a blank check for a preemptive war that Israel, unless it uses its nuclear weapons, can start but not finish. Fighting and finishing that war would fall to the armed forces of the United States.

Whom do these Republicans represent?

The Pentagon has made clear that with two wars of nearly a decade’s duration bleeding us, we do not want a third war with Iran. For while easy to predict how such a war begins, with air and missile strikes on Iran’s nuclear facilities, no one can know how it ends.

Indeed, how would Israel reach its targets in Iran?

Turkey would not allow Israeli over-flights. The route over Jordan and Iraq would require U.S. military complicity, for we control Iraqi air space. Would Riyadh permit Israel to use its airspace to attack Iran, knowing Tehran could create havoc in the Gulf states and oil patch of northeastern Arabia?

The Israeli air force could destroy the nuclear power plant at Bushehr, the heavy water reactor at Arak, and the uranium enrichment facility at Natanz. But Israel cannot follow up and destroy all the dispersed nuclear facilities and missile sites of Iran. And no one knows what would follow.

How would Iran retaliate? Missile strikes on Tel Aviv? A missile barrage form Hezbollah igniting another Israeli-Lebanon war? How long could the United States stand by and watch Israel bombarded?

Indeed, the principal purpose and result of an Israeli preemptive war on Iran, bringing retaliation on Israel, would be to drag America in to fight and finish a war Israel had begun.

In whose interest is that? And who dreamed this resolution up?

If America joined the attack, we would have to complete the destruction of Iran’s nuclear facilities and destroy its missile sites, coastal defenses, navy, air force, and hundreds of speedboats to prevent attacks on U.S. warships and tankers transiting the Strait of Hormuz.

We would have to strike all the Republican Guard bases near Iraq and Afghanistan to protect our troops. We would have to kill thousands of Iranians.

Would Iran retaliate by inciting the Mahdi Army to kill our men in Iraq? Would it set Hezbollah to kidnap or kill Americans in Lebanon? Would Iran retaliate for its civilian dead by activating agents to commit terrorism in the United States? No one knows.

In 1986, Ronald Reagan ordered air strikes on Libya to retaliate for Qaddafi’s bombing of the Berlin discotheque. In 1989, in retaliation, Qaddafi blew up Pan Am 103. Death toll: 270 men, women, and children. It’s called blowback.

The House Republican resolution supports Israel’s use of “all means necessary” to “eliminate nuclear threats” that represent an “immediate and existential threat to the State of Israel.”

What “immediate and existential threat” are they talking about?

It is Israel that has hundreds of atomic bombs. Iran has no atom bombs, has tested no atomic device, has diverted none of its low-enriched uranium out of the sight of U.N. inspectors and has offered to ship half of its LEU to Turkey in exchange for fuel rods for a U.S.-built reactor that makes medical isotopes. And half of the centrifuges at Natanz have broken down.

Undeniably, Iran is gaining knowledge of how to build a bomb. But such a decision would seem idiotic from Iran’s standpoint, risking Israeli or U.S. nuclear strikes and provoking Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt to follow suit and acquire the bomb, leaving Iran even more isolated and vulnerable.

Three years ago, 16 U.S. intelligence agencies reached a consensus that Iran had given up on the project of building a bomb. Do these Republicans have hard evidence Iran is diverting its enriched uranium to such a bomb? If so, where is it?

Have these Republicans forgotten what happened to their colleagues in 2006, who voted Bush that blank check for war on Iraq in 2002?

Why, with all the issues going for them, House Republicans would announce full-throated support for a preemptive war on Iran that Americans would have to fight and finish, escapes me.

But if this is where a Republican House would take America, into yet another war, best that we know it before voting this fall.

awesomeness... wrote:

Suprised no one said this yet but Yemen is next. It's actually already begun...

TCB wrote:

I'm surprised there has not been more discussion about China. Seems like there are a bunch of conservatives on this board who are concerned about the downfall of America and the rise of China and the struggle for resources.

Heck, that's not a conservative position. I'm liberal as hell and I can see that going on. China is growing fast--it's already huge as hell, and we can't push it around by threatening sanctions as we could, say, Iran (and you may have noticed even that is proving difficult). It competes with us for minerals in Africa, South America, and elsewhere... and rare earth metals are heavily produced by China:

China's military is growing as well...

If the US attacks Iran there will be general war in the Middle East. WWIII will commence. Hezbollah will nuke the temporary Zionist regime's military installations and political headquarters in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem with tactical nuclear artillery. Iran will launch a retaliatory nuclear strike on Israel and use surface-to-sea missiles to take out US ships in the gulf. Iran will launch a massive invasion of Iraq. Fate will take control and countries like Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon, and Egypt will likely switch sides and tempt fate rather than be remembered forever as cowards. In the in the end the US will win after a selective service draft with no student deferments allowed of 18-45 year olds produce 10,000,000 troops to invade the Middle East. But the entire Middle East will be in chaos and upheaval for decades.

Fate fate Fate wrote:

If the US attacks Iran there will be general war in the Middle East. WWIII will commence. Hezbollah will nuke the temporary Zionist regime's military installations and political headquarters in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem with tactical nuclear artillery. Iran will launch a retaliatory nuclear strike on Israel and use surface-to-sea missiles to take out US ships in the gulf. Iran will launch a massive invasion of Iraq. Fate will take control and countries like Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon, and Egypt will likely switch sides and tempt fate rather than be remembered forever as cowards. In the in the end the US will win after a selective service draft with no student deferments allowed of 18-45 year olds produce 10,000,000 troops to invade the Middle East. But the entire Middle East will be in chaos and upheaval for decades.

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Nice thought but it would be tough for Hezzbollah and Iran to nuke anyone seeing as how neither has nukes

Iran is the #1 reason that the Shia Warlords now control Iraq, why Islamic Freedom Fighters in Afghanistan and Pakistan are winning, why Hezbollah defeated Israel in the 2006 Lebanon War, and why Hamas thrives in Gaza in spite of numerous documented Zionist War Crimes. Iran supplies every Islamic Freedom Fighter in the world with IEDs, AK-47s, training, ammunition, money. Iran ensures that the surviving families of Martyrs in numerous countries are taken care of for life. Every US Crusader and Zionist killed has been a direct or indirect result of the actions of Iran.

Why do you think the US has not attacked Iran yet ? Perhaps the answer is as many suspect that Iran already has the bomb...

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